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Since left side episodic started in Oct 2013 I’ve tried most of the known treatments/meds and non-prescribed trials, and not much helped but time. Was hopeful with Emgality as I thought it worked but likely end of cycle, and so expensive even with decent fought for coverage. Lithium seemed better than Verapamil as the bridge etc but Niece with migraines busted out her peppermint oil last Aug ‘22. Dabbed and rubbed in to both temples and back of neck, and seemed 99% of time quelled the attacks. I let my Neurologist know and he’d never heard of it being helpful with Clusters. I’ve replaced the D3 regimen, Lithium, Verapamil, Gabapentin, and triptans for this. Have had cycles but this oddly seems to help. Still pissed off and exhausted after but it’s rare now for the pain to go to even a 4. Anybody try this stuff? All the best, Scott

Hi Shaun, When I first started the D3 regimen Batch had suggested 100,000 IU a day for 12 days and then drop back to a maintenance dose of 15,000 IU/day with the oil-based liquid soft gel vitamin D3 formulations or 100,000 IU/week with the Bio-Tech D3 50 50,000 IU water soluble vitamin D3. Additionally you will need to take all the co-factors see below. Here is a copy and paste from some of his protocol overview and the link if you want to sift through it as well: https://vitamindwiki.com/Cluster+Headaches+treated+by+high-dose+Vitamin+D%2C+etc.+(interview+and+transcript)+-+Feb+2022 Hope this helps get you started!

Hey Frilling, As BoscoPico indicated, your husband needs to start this treatment protocol now. The supplements you'll need are illustrated in the photo below of what I take and suggest to fellow CHers. Anti-Inflammatory Regimen Supplements: VITAMIN D3 A. Nutrasal Micro D3 Nano Emulsion – 0.5 mL/day used when loading B. Bio-Tech D3-50 – 1 or 2 capsules a week as Maintenance dose COFACTORS C. Kirkland Adult 50+ Mature Multi - 1 capsule a day D. Nature Made Extra Strength 400 mg Magnesium softgel - 1 capsule a day E. Nature Made Omega-3 Fish Oil – 2 capsules a day F. Methyl Folate + Vitamin B Complex - 1 capsule a day G. LifeExtension Super K with Advanced K2 Complex - 1 capsule a day Take care and please keep us posted, V/R, Batch

@Darrin. The nat geo show comes on after a show called trafficked with Maria van zeller she dives into the black market for literally every thing from body parts to as tonight’s episode was black market crude oil for terrorist it wonder she’s still alive. I do hope they somehow do a repeat of the CH episode all we can do is hope. I wish you luck in trying to find it..

@ZBM hey I’m a 30 year old female and I’ve been on the regimen since I was 26. The cofactors are nothing but good vitamins you should probably be on every day anyway. Magnesium (good anti inflammatory properties), and fish oil is good for the heart. You can even add any turmeric supplement in there too. Really good anti inflammatory properties there as well. @xxx will chime in shortly I hope. He is the d3 GOD

So I am currently taking vitamin D3 (I thought I had been taking 10,000 IU but just found out it was only 5,000IU...oops) as well as 400mg Magnesium, just started on the Omega 3 fish oil, feverfew, and Riboflavin. I will see if I can get my labs drawn in Neurology on my appointment on the 25th to see where I am at to know how I need to adjust.

Hey Sparklegirl, I remember getting hit 8 times/day. It was bad. See your PCP for assays of your serum 25(OH)D3, calcium and PTH (Parathyroid Hormone). It's a safe bet your serum 25(OH)D3 concentration is low < 30 ng/mL (75 nmol/L). If I'm correct, starting the anti-inflammatory regimen CH and MH preventative treatment protocol is prudent and the best way to get your CH under control. The following photo illustrates the supplements by brand and doses I take and suggest to other CHers. It helps to start this protocol by loading vitamin D3 to elevate serum 25(OH)D3 more rapidly. The loading dose I've used is two of the 50,000 IU Bio-Tech D3-50 capsules/day plus 0.5 mL/day of the Nutrasal Micro D3 nano emulsion taken sublingual (under the tongue for two minutes without swallowing). This brings the loading dose to 140,000 IU/day and It's taken for five (5) days for a total of 700,000 IU of vitamin 'D3 then drop back to an initial maintenance dose of 100,000 IU/week of the Bio-Tech D3-50. It's also helpful to double the magnesium dose by taking 400 mg with breakfast and 400 mg with the evening meal. This provides 12 hours and 12 feet GI tract separation between doses and that helps avoid osmotic diarrhea. See your PCP in 30 days for another round of assays for serum 25(OH)D3, calcium and PTH. Your 25(OH)D3 serum concentration should be up around 80 to 100 ng/mL (200 to 250 nmol/L). If the CH beast is still jumping ugly after completing the above loading schedule, I would start the antihistamine Full Monty. This is a clutch of supplements with antihistamine properties that includes 2 to 3 grams/day Turmeric (Curcumin), Quercetin, Resveratrol, Omega-3 (EPA and DHA) fish oil. It also includes 8 grams/day viramin C, 5 mg/day Melatonin (taken at bedtime), 250 mcg Selenium and 1000 mg/day NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine). Stay at this dose for 5 days then drop the dose of the first four supplements to one gram/day. Take care and please keep us posted. V/R, Batch

Could also try real Frankincense oil drip on the tongue, that has helped me just as good as the energy drinks.

Education has propensities to implement biases, dogmas, and, even pragmatic methods of thought that don't add up to a damn thing. I received a better education by reading books and turning wrenches as an auto mechanic, then HVACR Mechanic. Working in refrigeration and oil heat taught me more about physics than any college class did, the same with chemistry. Oh, and I learned more about polyphase and electrical theory by applying and designing control systems, than some fancy college education. The same can be said with applied calculus in the trades vs in college. I'm sorry, a college education is an indoctrination to force compliance. It does not prepare you for the reality, most with a degree don't know their ass from their elbow. If you conjured that gumption about Cluster Headaches then you exhibit a higher level of faculty and intellectual capacity. I attended college out of necessity, after two multi-level spinal reconstructions. I hated it, and it was bromidic. I slept through my classes and had full scholarships. The trades are substantially more challenging than any college course that I took. Concerning neurological care, I find that neurologists-especially under the guise of Academic Headaches Specialist-make the headaches much worse. All they did was drug my ass to oblivion and cause a few heart attacks. I see a PMHNP for my cluster headaches, after 8 years of failed treatments: she fixed it on the first visit. Nurse Practitioners are always the best. I can prove it. On that note, the exemption is for my movement disorder neurologist/neurophysiologist and my neurosurgeon with a specialization in complex spinal reconstruction. And the integrative anesthesiologist that does stem cells and platelet-rich plasma medicine, regenerative medicine. For some bullshit reason, I have to see a physiatrist just to have my muscles shot up with what those Alien Face women get, the fuck is it called? Oh, Botox! Movement disorders make your muscles tighter than a tick's ass. And, in our state, insurance requires that for coverage of any autoimmune diseases you see a rheumatologist. Thus, I am stuck with that. I try to avoid doctors. They take a disease-based approach and are “it has been 15 minutes get your shit and get.” Doctors don't care, want that $500,000 paycheck, and have zero empathy. Most are not qualified. Nurses take a holistic approach, are lucky to make $125,000, and are not in it for the money. And, they study nutrition. Doctors are not even required to take a single course in nutrition: every nurse I have worked with has taken several courses in nutrition and orthomolecular medicine, with hundreds of hours in clinical nutrition. Honestly, I hate doctors.

Assuming CMS will cover oxygen, you will not have enough tanks to abort. My recommendation is industrial oxygen. It is my impression that an industrial HVAC supply house will allow you to purchase such tanks if honest and if you explain. You are not purchasing anything that requires an EPA 608 Universal Refrigerant License. And as stated, I have offered my business accounts numerous times, which should be active. I assume that everyone wants to see my inactive licenses? I was heavily involved with the RE Michael Executives 17 years ago, look that supplier up. Their executives formed a company and I was the lead HVAC Mechanic. From there, I became an Oil Heat Mechanic, Controls Engineer, and Refrigeration Mechanic and should have an account with Penco and United Refrigeration. I knew a few of the sales executives at Penco, dated one of their daughters, one was a close friend of the family. That account should be active. Yeah, before screwing my life to hell and back was deeply connected to politics and executives. Oh well. Such is life. In my world, it is called blacklisted, even family.

Burning cooking oil used to trigger me instantly but the strange thing is that it stopped being a trigger a couple years ago.

Hey Billyx, Thank you for the reply. The 14-day loading schedule should have elevated your 25(OH)D3 up by 170 nmol/L bringing your total 25(OH)D3 serum concentration up around 300 nmol/L (121 ng/mL). That's good and it should be more than sufficient to bring about a therapeutic response with a significant reduction in CH frequency or better yet, a complete cessation of CH. Accordingly, as you're still getting hit with CH, it's more than likely you're also experiencing an immune system response to allergens. These can be subclinical with no obvious or outward observable symptoms. Allergic reactions kick off a lot of histamine and histamine to a CHer is like Kryptonite to Superman, bad news. None of the prevents work during an allergic reaction and that includes vitamin D3. The best course of action I take when an allergic reaction is present, is to start what I call the "Full Monty" clutch of supplements with antihistamine properties on top of the basic anti-inflammatory regimen supplements. I take 3 grams/day each of Turmeric (Curcumin), Resveratrol, Quercetin and Omega-3 fish oil. I also take 8 grams/day vitamin C in divided doses. I buy the powdered bulk vitamin C in 1 Kg bags ( 3 cents/gram USD) and mix two level teaspoons (8 grams) in 8 oz of water and take sips throughout the day until it's all gone by bedtime. I also take 10 mg/day melatonin at bedtime. I stay on this concoction for at least a week after cessation of CH then taper the doses. It never hurts to keep taking at least 4 grams/day vitamin C all the time. Our bodies need vitamin C to synthesize collagen. We need collagen to help prevent brittle bones, maintain healthy cartilage and elastic skin. Besides being an antihistamine, vitamin C is also an excellent antioxidant, antiviral and antibacterial agent. Watch the following video of Linus Pauling giving a presentation on the use of vitamin C to prevent illness and disease. Pauling was 92 when he filmed this video. He had many critics of his suggested use of vitamin C in large quantities to prevent illnesses. Most of these critics came from the Big Pharmas. When he died at 93, he still had two more individual Nobel Prizes than any of his critics and he had outlived most of them. His first individual Nobel Prize was for Chemistry involving quantum mechanics, electron orbits and molecular shapes. (My degree was in Chemistry so quantum mechanics was a central theme throughout my studies.) Pauling's second individual Nobel Prize was for Peace. He stopped above ground nuclear warhead testing. He took 18 grams/day vitamin C. He also took 10,000 IU/day vitamin D3. Take care and please keep us posted. V/R, Batch

Has anyone experienced shadows worsening when starting D3 regime? Got to day 12 and shadows started to worsen day 20 now and are still the same from day 12. My D3 levels were: (nmol/L) 86 I have been taking the following supplements: Solgar D3 (10,000iu) x5 for 14days x1 since Solgar omega 3 fish oil concentrate x1 fish oil concentrate 2,000mg, EPA 160mg, DHA 100mg Solgar chelated Magnesium 400mg Solgar vitamin k2 Mk-7 100 MCG Solgar B-complex 100 Thorne basic nutrients Vitamin A 450mcg beta carotene/ 600mcg palmitate, Zinc 15mg, boron, 2mg, Calcium 52mg Ultra Muscles Night Magnesium 366mg, Calcium 210/ calcium hydrogen phosphate dihydrate 601.1mg

I have plenty of experience with SSDI and CH, as well as Migraine. 1) you will need comorbidity listed by SSDI 2) As of January 2022, it now takes 9 months to be assigned a disability evaluator. Yes, 9 months. Between appeals, and all the crap that you are up against if you are approved-a realistic time frame is five to six years. Before being a welfare collector, I had successful careers as an HVAC/R and Oil Heat Mechanic, Gas Fitter, Plumbing, and Electric. Before that, I gave up a dead-end career as a Lexus, and Mercedes Benz Factory Mechanic. I also had a career as a defense contractor. Once the two spinal reconstructions/fusions occurred, it was off to college to waste away 8 years for an MBA/MS and to make far less money. Then, by junior year the shitshow began, and so did disability. I spent 8 years misdiagnosed, and my new anesthesiologist is certain of a movement disorder, most likely progressive MS. If correct, all the fancy headache clinics screwed up royally. You can attempt, ATTEMPT, to expedite the process by congressional inquiry, and an attorney that knows what they are doing (Sharon Christie (RN and Attorney), and even then, you better hope for a ton of financial support. I'm sorry, twenty years ago was only easy for the quadriplegic dying of a terminal illness, not to be morbid. A close friend fought the VA for 6 years and SSDI for 6 or 7 years in the 90s, if not for him, I have to believe him, none of us would get it. He was the first to take on both administrations. I am one nut shy of $10 fruit cake, my spine is shot, and I had several, multiple, valid comorbidities to list in 2014. I went through the process of application, doctor review/visit, denial, appeal, and favorable decision in 6 months. I feel bad for saying that, but yes, I received my disability in 6 months, but I'm so fucked up that it only made sense. I did not see a judge, never went for an evaluation, any of those things. I can't help you there. I hate to tell you this if you try by headache, you will have a mountain to climb and will need to go before a judge. And it will take several years. I know for a fact that you do not need epileptic comorbidity or any other listing; however, if under 50, Disability is financially broke, you need as many other listings as possible. They do not want more on the rolls. My advice, congressional inquiry, a hotshot lawyer, to hell with most of your back pay, and patience. Oh, get used to abject poverty. The most that you will receive is $2,000 per month. After your advantage plan, and Medicare, it becomes $1,800. That is a 1 bedroom flat in my area. And you can't freelance. Oh, no lawyer takes on your case until you are denied. Most are denied because they don't understand how to provide paperwork/records. Get every record, a medical dictionary, and learn what to send, what not to send. I believe that I read 10,000 pages, but sent 3,500 pages (the stuff that did not incriminate me). I had every doctor write a detailed/succinct report as to why I could not work, and fill out an SSDI report of disability determination (ahead of time). If you think that they do this, you are a fool, and that is why you get canned. Their doctors can only assess what they have.

how do i contact xxx? yes correct im also taking the fish oil, magnesium, k1 k2 with the d3 and a multivitamin and calcium and the b vitamins. i did read somewhere that high vitamin d is not a problem if the calcium is normal but i could be wrong thanks for the reply mate, apreciate it

@spinyI prefer these two options, and it depends on the severity of inflammation. If mild, I use the first. If wild, I bump it up to 2,800mg. The second one. So I don't present bias, I will present other solid options. I love Vitacost but to each its own. The Nordic Naturals Liquid 1270mg Option https://www.vitacost.com/nordic-naturals-complete-omega-liquid-lemon-8-fl-oz-1 The Nordic Naturals Liquid 2,840mg Option https://www.vitacost.com/nordic-naturals-ultimate-omega-lemon-4-fl-oz-4 The Carlson Mega Omega 2800mg Liquid Option (Unflavored) https://www.vitacost.com/carlson-norwegian-medomega-fish-oil-concentrate Carlson Very Finest (flavored) 1600mg Option https://www.vitacost.com/carlson-the-very-finest-fish-oil-orange-6-7-fl-oz-1 Liquid (pet hypothesis) appears to have superior absorption properties. Sure, it has an unpleasant taste. Pick your poison, hoarse pills that stick in your throat and don’t absorb, or a simple spoonful? Remember that “a teaspoon of sugar.” https://www.vitacost.com/carlson-the-very-finest-fish-oil-orange-6-7-fl-oz-1

Uff so I'm sick. Sore throat started last night I thought it was because I left the window open for my older lab but no. Almost 9 pm here and still a Sore throat after peppermint tea all day and body ache I did increase the d and c but feel yuck. Shadowing bad anything else I should increase or just ride it out??

As I suspected, a few years back there was a reason for the push to use only pharmaceutical grade omega-3, most of the market stuff is garbage. From the venerable Science, which I trust considerably more than Consumer Labs (I won’t disclose), Nordic Naturals and Carlson are the best. I swear by Nordic Naturals, especially the Nemechek protocol approved 2,840mg one (jackpot). Carlson is always sold out on iHerb, Vitacost, and Amazon. It will set you back $40 a month, but you get what you pay for, BIG TIME. The Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega, Liquid, 2840mg is so potent that mainstream psychiatrists use it as frontline treatment in Borderline Personality Disorder. I know, after 25 years of polypharmacy and most likely a million or two billed to insurance, that in 3 months I am a brand new person that know one recognizes. That is the Nemechek protocol approved choice, even Dr. Amen approves, he produces his own FYI. If you read this far https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S0889157519305137?token=C58EF8063CA3EE0CDCA9A292D5659882F55A2A8D63A7E4ED57F984890342B97D12E41EF47D1C64E9ED17EEE9782C36E5&originRegion=us-east-1&originCreation=20211210000327

I understand and have crap days, but I refuse anything new and without substantial backing. And on that note, I refuse all abortive medications. I'm trying to avoid taking any medication unless it is to prevent me from going mental. My parents are in their 70s and have impeccable health because they refuse medications unless essential, and then only on the shortest duration as possible. That is the philosophy I am taking, and the results are impressive. I use nutraceutical approaches (not herbal medicine and snake oil) to treat my issues as much as possible, to each its own. Good luck in finding relief. Sometimes it is a process and sometimes it is a vicious circle.

I find this interesting, appreciate the insight, and this has popped up on my radar before. Regarding the oxidative stress that it purports to reduce, my approach would be to target the offenders first: sugar, simple carbs, low concentrations of EPA/DHA/Omega 3, Vitamin D, and of course the key trace minerals and micronutrients. Without a hair analysis, which I can't afford, I am pissing in the wind. It creates expensive urine when you take a bunch of supplements to treat nutrient deficiencies that may not exist. And I create the paradox because I hate all the nutrient-dense vegetables. Go figure. Regarding the MSM, I am still interested in short-term prophylaxis. It appears to be a reasonably priced option to reduce inflammation. As with nutrients, it would be futile if you don't repair the leaky gut, as well as eradicate sugar and eliminate processed foods and bad carbs. I found it interesting that MSM can reduce parasites (benefit), and improve intestinal health (benefit). Regarding it being a free radical scavenger and its role in nitric oxide, my knee-jerk reaction was proper Vitamin C saturation. And not Vitamin C from ascorbic acid, rose hips, and so forth. Some supplements provide the true form of Vitamin C and your last name needs to be Rothschild to afford it. All the evidence looks great; however, there is only a paucity of data, small sample sizes, and most research stopped by 2003. There are scattered studies, but zero clinical trials since 2003. What is more, I did what I can recall from meta-analysis and none of the studies or clinical trials did a lab draw on homocysteine levels. If it works then why eliminate a simple lab test? That is its purported benefit and after combing through over 50 publications, not one had a homocysteine level, and the paucity of data was concerning. To be fair, there isn't money in curing someone. The fact that research stopped tells me the opposite of what an untrained eye would surmise. Most likely, it works damn well and they (you know who) attempted a brilliant cover-up. There is one way to find out, do a baseline homocysteine draw and follow up every three months while taking a starter dose of 1 gram. If the results aren't promising, double down. Most studies included Glucosamine and Chondroitin, which I don't even know a naturopath pushing nutraceuticals to their brother would recommend. That gives the age of the publication. They proved that Glucosamine and Chondroitin are all placebo. I would suggest a trial run of 1gram of MSM, with Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega (2800mg of EPA/DHA Omega 3 Nemechek protocol approved), Garden of Life Raw Code Vitamin D3 (5,000 IU), Garden of Life Chewable Digestive Enzymes, Garden of Life Raw Organic Perfect Food Green SuperFood, Garden of Life Perfect Food Super Green Formula Berry (5 servings of fruits and vegetables), Garden of Life My Kind (Women if a Woman and age range), or Garden of Life My Kind Men's Multi (Age and Man if a Man), the multi is $60 but is all plant-based the only on the market, it is two months thus $30 a month (a steal), Garden of Life Vitamin Code Raw C, Garden of Life Dr. Formulated Probiotics Mood+ Acidophilus (buy the refrigerated), Garden of Life Dr. Formulated Whole Food Magnesium raspberry or orange powder (this is pure 350mg of plant based you will absorb all and not poop it all out), Life Extensions Only Trace Minerals. Cost per month $116.20 + my grocery bill of under $200= $300 to $315 for a sane and balanced nutrient dense diet. It is working. And I eat all organic. Note on Fe (Iron): incontrovertibly women have this issue and I have no clue on what supplement to recommend. I use a regional egg brand called Eggland’s Best which is loaded with all natural Vitamin E, Over 500mg of Omega 3, and about 65% of my RDA in iron. I also consume 4 large of said brands eggs each day, with a serving or two of cheese. I do avoid margarine and trans fats. Butter I will use occasionally. My total cholesterol is 170, screw the 90s myth that eggs and butter are terrible. Eggs are a perfect food and organic butter is fine. That nasty shit they call Country Crock will kill you fast. For lunch, it is a can of low-sodium organic beans, which is loaded with fiber. I am far less concerned about taste than protein count. Some beans exceed 30 grams (you can’t process that much in one setting). I strive for under 15 grams of protein. I eat a few servings of veggies, and nothing fancy. I don’t count calories or carbs. That isn’t necessary if you avoid sugar, starch, simple carbs, and bad fats. If my tummy growls, nothing scientific I eat something that isn’t simple carb loaded. Even I realize that you need carbs. Don’t ask, but even I strive for the RDA with complex carbs. KISS (keep it simple stupid). I eat one organic yard bird (chicken breast) with Olive Oil and fresh herbs every night, nothing fancy. If I do feel tired and instead of calorie counting I add cheese, and find whole foods to add. And with each meal I consume a 7 gram all natural fiber that I forgot to add in. I struggle but manage to consume about 2 servings of veggies with dinner, frozen, to hell with chopping and to hell with carb counting, are you nuts? If hungry in between I eat pistachios. But only one serving. My lab draws are the best that they have been in decades, but I am still a train wreck waiting to happen. The damage that I did to my body may be beyond repair. Jen Sais Pas. Time will do. I do know that my migraine days are down to once, at most twice per month, and I was intractable. Concerning Cluster Headaches, I was intractable and I think it has been two months since my last bad bout. And usually it is one and done. Im euthymic after a 7 year, and several should have been fatal run with mental health and borderline addiction. I have a long way in that department but I don’t recall being this stable since childhood, pre-puberty. There is still a shitload of CBT work to learn how to be around people, make these things called friends, and things like that. My C reactive is down substantially, most inflammatory markers are drastically reduced, and I am now at the point that I need to see a functional NP and have a hair analysis to figure out the exhaustion. If I could figure that out, I could return to university and get on with my life. Ultimately come off disability. You have to take quality supplements, I mean whole plant based and few exist. Also, you must eliminate everything that you would buy in the supermarket. If you pay attention, all the healthy stuff is way in the back or in the most inconvenient places. And with COVID, I don’t have issues with groceries because everyone purchases chips, pop, bread, ie, grains, cereals, starches, sugars, etc. If it is empty at Harris Teeter, Wegmans, Target Greatlands, you should not be eating it. I would suggest that you skip the theatrical performances and shop at Trader Joe’s compared to its sister company it is much cheaper and the quality of people is much better. Respectfully, shopping at Aldi is even worse than dealing with people at Wal Mart. Much of the novelty treatments don’t seem necessary if you address the underlying cause.

And then there's Snake Oil Willie..."I don't look good naked anymore"... https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgd9hitEAE&feature=share

Everyone has a preference, but I have reviewed independent lab tests and through the years tried an entire slew of different Fish Oil supplements. I started with the ones that you could purchase at Target, nothing changed, even approaching 4800mg. Next, I went to MOMS (My Organic Market), and well they said try Now Foods. I used several of their products, most are an industry secret (non-GMO, organic, natural) exceptional product at rock-bottom prices, nope. I didn't see the results. And unlike most brands, they pay to have their products tested by all of the third-party labs. They also do a lot of clinical research. Onward, if you know anything about Meta-Analysis, Amazon reviews are fake. If you buy a product based on reviews that is your ignorance. When adjusted, most products are not anywhere near the quality portrayed. This is important. I managed to acquire the lab results for Nordic Naturals (not hard, but I refuse to pay), and I tried it. In a week I felt what all the hype was about. I realize this was drawn out, but EVERYTHING that I use is evidence-based. Nordic Naturals is at the top for purity standards, meaning you will get that 1400 of EPA/DHA. Most are all on paper, not even close. They have numerous products, no burp, lemon, mixtures with Vitamin D, et cetera. I don't support Amazon, so I provided a link to their webpage. Don't be discouraged go on Vitacost, they have buttloads of Omega 3 products. I will stick my neck out on this. Most of the lab results I have seen had shown evidence of mercury and toxins with other Omega 3 blends, they distill everything! And you get the real purported dose. Yes, there are other products, they cost more. It is not cheap, but it is worth it. If you dose as I do, 3000mg, plan on $60 a month. https://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/professionals/why-omega-3s/536

You can get most of your ALA from flaxseed oil; however, it will not provide the EPA and DHA. Furthermore, fish do not produce EPA or DHA-its their diet from Algae. The product I sent a link to is 100% plant-based, Vegan. It contains your EPA and DHA from Algae and your ALA from flaxseed. The capsules are not Gelatin! I went through a few medical databases and found no differences in outcomes. It works similarly, just differences in approach. I believe that you can purchase this on Vitacost, as I refuse to support cronyism. Anecdotal, but important, I take 3200mg of Nordic Naturals Super Omega 3 and 15,000 iu of D among several other orthomolecular approaches. My 25 Hydroxy maintains at 40. Most push for 30, I have my reasons. The big 2 Omega 3 and D, drastically reduced my fibromyalgia symptoms, all headache symptomology, and it is a potent mood-stabilizer. Even with a severe form of BPD not responsive to DBT or CBT my entire team is wondering what in the hell I am taking. It works. Don't be scared to go heavy. The price is very fair: I don't see the big stink. I pay far more, people don't understand that quality affords an output of cash. This isn't a mass-produced Natures Way loaded with fillers, gelatin, and binders. https://www.ovega.com

Hi @shrumsh, I recall discussing this here a little while ago. OK not so much a little while , more like 7+ years ago . Back then I was using the Solgar Vegetarian DHA but I don't think it was long before I reverted back to just taking plain old high lignan flax oil for my Omega 3s. I can't claim to have any particular evidence that flax oil is an effective substitute for fish oil in the D3 regimen though.

Would a vegan version of the D3 regimen work? If so, does anyone have a recommendation for a vegan Omega-3 supplement or a suggestion for how much DHA, EPA, etc., should be in a vegan Omega-3 supplement to match the effectiveness of fish oil? Thanks.