Pixie-elf Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I found http://health.howstuffworks.com/medicine/surgeries-procedures/redhead-anesthesia.htm this interesting.... The second page discusses what might cause it. I was born with 1 strand of red hair on my head. (My Mom's response was "That can not be my child..." ) Then the hair turned blonde and curly. ....Figured I may as well post while I'm sitting up bored. XD Mystina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoxieGirl Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm not a red head, but had an orange tinge in my hair when I was young, and freckles. I colour my hair a dark red these days, as red looks good on me. I quite possible have a small aspect of the red head gene in me somewhere. Renée Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whooligun Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Brown hair all the way, but my beard has blonde, black, red and gray in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiny Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Auburn here. Guess that means I am an episodic redhead! ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie-elf Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'm trying to remember what exactly was my point in posting this last night / yesterday... Because I really don't remember. XD I think I was thinking that maybe a similar gene or something similar might be changed like this in CH'ers, since a lot do not respond to narcotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'm trying to remember what exactly was my point in posting this last night I think it's interesting. Not sure how to call the colour of my hair and body hair... it's a mix and there is definitely red in there. When the setting sun hits some way, I look like a red head. I'm not sure how exactly yet, but I have a feeling there could be a link... so far those who responded do have some red hair... http://books.google.ca/books?id=Je9QTWRH6s8C&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=red-hair+hypothalamus&source=bl&ots=_4U_9VWa_I&sig=aabzfjP9sjdsWG-s9gnNJ_rE0bU&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=LDdGT8TrBqjA0AHi1JW1Dg&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=red-hair%20hypothalamus&f=false However, in many red headed people, and other people who do not tan well, there are variations in their hormone receptors, (...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanocyte-stimulating_hormone http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0004-27302009000200002&script=sci_arttext Food for thoughts, maybe ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiny Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Purple, That's the Auburn. It shows in the sun and under some lights. At other times, you don't see it unless you spend a lot of time outdoors and then it really gets lighter and redder. Other articles I have read in the past say that redheads have higher pain threshold. How a mutant could cause this I don't know. But the study was based on women during labor and delivery. How is it that you need more anesthetic, so that means you have a lower tolerance for pain? Either you are out or you are not. I do know that every time I have been put out for surgery, I wake up immediately after. I have gotten in trouble in recovery because I was too awake and wanting out of there right away. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie-elf Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Purple, That's the Auburn. It shows in the sun and under some lights. At other times, you don't see it unless you spend a lot of time outdoors and then it really gets lighter and redder. Other articles I have read in the past say that redheads have higher pain threshold. How a mutant could cause this I don't know. But the study was based on women during labor and delivery. How is it that you need more anesthetic, so that means you have a lower tolerance for pain? Either you are out or you are not. I do know that every time I have been put out for surgery, I wake up immediately after. I have gotten in trouble in recovery because I was too awake and wanting out of there right away. Go figure. Oh no, anesthesia isn't all that simple. There's general anesthesia, conscience sedation, etc. They can make it so you just aren't supposed to remember the pain, or so that you're so out it doesn't register. Or effectively in a coma-like state so that you have to have something maintaining your airways since you can't. The fact is, while I was 'out' for my last surgery, I traumatized a noob neurosurgeon by sitting up, and shoving my hand in an incision, because they didn't have me under enough anesthesia. (Oh, and because some dumbass UNTIED ME. Who the feck thought THAT was a good idea?) Seriously, I've got OCD. I'd have asked for a glove had I been truly awake. My neurosurgeon says that even people with their brains open try to reach up and touch their brains, and thought it was pretty funny. Another note, my Mom and Cousin both have anesthesia awareness... Mom and I can't tan, at all, but my cousin can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Purple, That's the Auburn ... strawberry blond, medium brown, light golden medium brown... maybe light auburn... châtain in French (chestnut?)... whatever the name for my hair colour, it's got red in it. But I tan very well (my Native genes)... I too woke up during surgery when I was 6 or 7 years old (tonsils removal, my only surgery) and I remember the flash very well, the medical crew kind of panicked seeing me waking up. I think what is interesting to (maybe) dig here is the relation there could be between CH and the red hair gene and possible link with hormones, hypothalamus, pituitary gland, hormones receptors and also obesity as the links I posted above show (maybe). Some research seem to find a link between red hair people and obesity... well since it would be the exact contrary for clusterheads (no obese people here, is there? I'm very skinny myself), I see a link. I wish I had better understanding of the brain and the chemicals mixture in our body... but it's my feeling that the brain and endocrine specialists' precious findings can say more than they seem to say plainly if we gather various info like CH, LSD-psilocybin, genes, red hair, skinny, hypothalamus, perceptions and reality... all together in a pot and look at it with yet another perspective. I lived through such special times with CH for soooo long, I always thought in some way it gave me some... advantage? maybe not, but at least a unique knowing that other people did not have. People had no idea of the pain level... It was just that. I never really gave it a second thought. But coming here to these boards this year and finding I was not alone brings these thoughts upfront, and I'm finding more and more that us clusterheads are special and have many things in common. I see less and less CH as an illness that can be cured. I think I see it more like a state reached, a sign that we're different, something to control and deal with, not something to kill out like a virus or a bacteria or even compensate like insulin defficiency. (It's not because I have CH I reach another perception, it's because I reached yet another stage of perception that CH appears, kind of a corollary). Where I went in so many waves of Kip 9-10 CH attack I lived through, no other humans went. Only other clusterheads. I find it fascinating and want to dig further. I think the question asked by this thread is much more interesting than it might appear at first sight... unless tons of us claim to have no link with red hair, which is not the case so far. Oh a futile sounding post like this had to get me going LOL I always seemed to go off rails in my life, but in the end I'm still going forward. It's only a perception people have they should open doors hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kymera_gr7 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I was born carrot-orange haired, then it all fell out. Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I was born carrot-orange haired, then it all fell out. Does that count? I think it certainly does. Bumping this thread up 'cause I'm really curious to see if there are more red hair related clusterheads. It seems to me this could be interesting to search more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsgrneyedldy Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I was born w/ no hair,when I was 3 it was red as could be,gradually turned strawberry blonde,Now My hair color changes w/ the seasons, I get bored easy so I die it alot! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I've got blonde hair, always have. Not to be too much of a pessimist, but I highly doubt there is a connection with red hair and clusters. I think it's more likely that most of the people interested in this thread are going to be redheads, and we end up with a disproportionate amount of people saying I'm a red head and I have clusters. The biggest reason I find it hard to believe that clusters and redheads go together, is that researchers have been trying to find a common factor in clusters for a LONG time--and being a red head sticks out like not much else. I find it very hard to believe that if even MOST people, but not all, who have clusters were red heads, that it would not be noticed. -Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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