Thanks for the welcome!! I should have been back sooner. Last time through Y'all turned me on to Red Bull and that seems to work. 50% or so. I knocked 2 wake me uppers out with cold air. First one it was about 40 outside, second was with my head in the freezre got lucky the defroster fan was on. I broke down this morning and shot one with this new to me sumavel dosepro giz. Only got half of it cause it scared me and I jerked. I think I will try the RC route. I went to GNC and bought some Taurine 500mg to add to the Red Bull- didn't make a differance. Thanks again. Gotta go back to the doc about the Testosterone level next. Seems my count is through the roof.