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Hello everyone! I was wondering if TRT will trigger clusters? My husband is looking into trying it and he wants to know if anyone has any experience with it? thanks!

Yeah it is right? The one I'm using is an Huawei smart watch G2 paired with my old Huawei health app on the Mate 20 Pro Series. Seems to be doing the job. It's amazing that the very 1st REM onset triggers my attack which is usually 1 hour after falling asleep. Yet the following REM spikes doesn't. I'm just trying to get some more research done regarding the sleep aspect as well as why my subconscious stress at midnight is skyrocketing. Try it out brother. Let me know on your findings. Good luck

It is almost spooky. I had the same attack sequence in the nights. I am also getting a sleep tracker. Very interesting

Hi all, I know you probably all know this already, however, aside from these attacks getting me during the onset of REM, I am just curious about the spike in stress levels especially at 12 am. Seems weird. These were the last 2 nights stats. Also whilst melatonin is mentioned to control you from going into REM, there's mixed signals about it from what I have read. It can also send you into the "devils playground". Just fascinating looking at this. My awake times are when I am having the attack. Will continue to monitor.

Certainly all lines up exactly with having chronic clusters, my results simple describe how I am living with them and the results are also 99% caused by them

I still think we are more prone to hedonistic behavior than average as a way to balance pain we experience with pleasure. No....I'm not admitting to a damn thing..... It's merely a theory.

I think it's kept up and running mostly for archived information now. Sad to look back over the posts and see names lost to the years.....

...i waver between thinking these are caused by CH vs being part of the whole package of a "wonky hypothalamus"....

...cool beans Craigo! ...as CHfathers's citation(s) demonstrates, don't be leery of older studies(not that i doubt you!). i distinctly recall discussions and papers demonstrating higher incidence among clusterheads of OCD, smoking, alcohol abuse, and mental health issues, etc...and i'm talking 20+ yrs ago. ..will certainly take this test but just by subhead alone, i know i'll score off the board

....alive but active as a see-ment garden (or pond)

That's some weird, suspect timing following the implant, but even though epinephrine at the dentist is a notorious trigger for some, the fact that the repercussions would typically be expected more instantly makes it sound like coincidence can't be entirely ruled out(?). Also, as you may be well aware, even following decades of consistent behavior, we can still expect CH to pull a change up on us, and start a cycle in a never-before-experienced fashion, such as a slow ramp up with advil etc. abort-able attacks at first. Hate to think it, but I would be bracing for some possible continued ramping up.

Given all the circumstances, it seems very unlikely that this is the issue, but I think it's almost universally true that the anesthetic that dentists typically use, Xylocaine + epinephrine, triggers CH attacks. (It's the epinephrine that does it.) But, among other things, the attacks usually come on more quickly than what you're describing, and of course you've had many previous dental procedures so it seems very likely you would have had the X+e during one of them. I think your next procedure with this oral surgeon won't be for quite a while, but I suppose you could request a different anesthetic just in case.

It is ROLAND SYSTEM 500 and at the time a Moog voyager oldschool plus vx and cp breakoutboxes It can make sounds that scare beasts away but not ‘“the beast”

Try this link https://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard2/index.html Looks to be up

Not sure if this allowed but I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to their message board.

First, thank you @Craigo for the poll, and second, I do have to agree with @BoscoPiko on this one:

Dr. Graham's Credibility takes the biggest of hits right there.

Plus you have the (Moog??!!) modular synth action going on in the background, which....OK....may have nothing to do with CH, but is cool as hell.

A small (I hope) hijacking. I've been reading more about Dr. Graham, who first provided the "leonine" characterization. Just thought these quotes about women were worth mentioning. "It's a man's disease," says Dr. Graham, and women who are afflicted with cluster headache tend to "act mannishly." What's new on heads and their aches? (This article recounts a couple of 1977 talks about CH at a conference. On one hand, they're pretty cringeworthy, and on the other they at least show some folks trying to figure out what to do about CH. (CH was considered just a subdivision of migraine until the 1960s -- which, depending on your age, might seem like a long time ago or pretty recent.) (In 1960, 5% of medical students were women.)) This is from 2006. I think it still took a long time after that to really acknowledge that many women have CH (and many doctors still don't seem to know that), but she (the author) was trying, at least. "Cluster headache is a notoriously painful and dramatic disorder. Unlike other pain disorders, which tend to affect women, cluster headache is thought to predominantly affect men. Drawing on ethnography, interviews with headache researchers, and an analysis of the medical literature, this article describes how this epidemiological “fact”—which recent research suggests may be overstated—has become the central clue used by researchers who study cluster headache, fundamentally shaping how they identify and talk about the disorder. Cluster headache presents an extreme case of medicalized masculinity, magnifying the processes of gendering and bringing into relief features of the world whose routine operation we might otherwise overlook." Uncovering the Man in Medicine - Joanna Kempner, 2006

This could be the photo in the dictionary next to "leonine"!!

At the time I was reading about this I looked like my avatar picture. So it was like “whaaaaat?” And my zodiac sign is lion. And I am 1.86cm in height. That is probably 6feet in American?

Well, sticking with the Salamanca traits, I suppose one might imagine that you would see more smoking in a group of people who are more anxious, impulsive, paranoid, and OCDish than others (For example, "Those with higher obsessive compulsive symptoms report greater motivation to smoke for negative reinforcement, sensorimotor behavioral-ritualistic, habit/automaticity, and stimulation reasons." Obsessive-Compulsive Symptoms and Cigarette Smoking: An Initial Cross-Sectional Test of Mechanisms of Co-Occurrence - PMC)

Thanks CHfather, I have updated the poll to ask the question and record if the person is a sufferer or not and if so, what form. I take it you added your email and received the analysis run through the prompt - it's just sending your results via an automation to a model with a prompt to analyse them - the prompt deals with a tie in scores based on prioritizing CH traits and if a tie stills exists, rank in alphabetical order - I have made that now clear in the email summary. Thanks for sharing these studies! Raises more questions than answers. Significant that the observed craniometric abnormalities were independent of smoke and alcohol intake which contrasts previous hypotheses that lifestyle factors might explain facial features like the "leonine face" that Graham and Kudrow wrote about. We also have a new paper published a few days back - Smoking in primary headaches – a systematic review and meta-analysis looking at smoking in primary headaches and found a weighted-pooled prevalence of smoking in CH patients of 65% being the highest prevalence among primary headache types evaluated, compared to 20% for migraine and 19% for TTH. Despite this they concluded that current smoking was not associated with CH diagnosis when compared to controls and suggest this lack of association might be due to the limited number of studies included for CH in their meta-analysis but also state that while smoking is commonly associated with CH, it may result from other as yet unidentified factors which aligns with the 2021 craniometry study's finding that the observed bone abnormalities are independent of smoking and alcohol consumption. On the losing beloved family pets, oh man it's tough. I'm sorry. We lost Harper our female border collie at 9 maybe 2 years back, Ollie held tough, my loyal mate, for another couple of years and he enjoyed great health over his 15 years with me. The sharpness of the pain has subsided but boy do I miss him, I find myself telling "Gurl" that Ollie would have adored her, he got so excited around cats. Cats are so different, try and approach them they run away, ignore them and they come to you. Alas its my Sunday and I have one very important task to do today, and that is book flights to Dallas for September. We are very excited but trying to figure out how much time to spend exploring Dallas and maybe Austin before going upto Seattle. It's a long old flight to not make the most of it - 24 hours, ungh.

@cluster-schmuck77 Thank you for sharing this update and these insights. I'm so sorry to hear you've been dealing with these since you were only 8 years old. That is so young, I was 14 when they started and I feel like I'm usually in the younger bracket of CH sufferers. I'm 33 now, so almost 2 decades of this hellish rollercoaster. Accepting the fact you may have CH for the rest of your life is not easy, and I think I speak on behalf of everyone when I say that. I've found that I go back and forth between being hopeless and hopeful. We are still young so who knows where science will be in the years to come. The human spirit is amazing and us CH folks (and other severe headache sufferers) are truly in a league of our own. We live to fight another day and it sounds like you've made some leaps and bounds in your CH management journey. I'm so happy for you and hope you continue to have this great response. Out of curiosity, how much magnesium do you take per day? Cheers!