River_Rat

Thanks Jeff! Update....Have only been hit once since that crazy night with a 9-10 for about an hour last night (Thurs) right eye swelled almost completely shut, thought I was going to panic from the pain, worked through it with nothing but walking and pacing, other then that just shadows. Weird cycle! Just Weird. I'll bust again in a few days. NORM

So what do you think? Do another 50?

As far as any other meds go, I do take some heartburn stuff daily, then Xanax, other then that nothing, I do smoke and drink like most clusterheads LOL, not drinking now though. I'll let you know how tonight goes. I would like to believe that I just pissed him off so he slammed me last night, but with that said I'd also like to think I put a little hurt on him, and that maybe if I just stay strong stay off meds and dose again in 5 days maybe that will be a kill shot or at least a heavy wound, 3rd bust maybe the kill shot......Is this the right thinking about the seeds?

Thanks Purple, had a pretty good day today, just a constant shadow but light didn't get much sleep last night hope it goes better tonight, I will stay off meds and up my seed dose for next time and see what happens, although last night might have been one of the worst nights I can remember (how easily we forget) it will be worth beating a 4 month cycle with a few really bad nights. If they work

Thanks Brew, I needed to hear that. I don't think the Vicodin did anything anyway, I'll stay away from everything and try again. I do take Xanax daily for anxiety and have for the last 6-7 years, what do you know about Xanax in regards to busting? Cause I can't stop taking them? Thank God you guys are here.

So that's a "slapback?" felt more like a train wreck, still pretty good today it's 3:37pm and I just took a little nap still just a shadow. As far as Vik's go I meant vicodin rarely ever take them but after the 2nd hit I thought maybe it might take the edge off a bit, but it didn't or did it? Hell I don't know. I try to make it through the night tonight and see what happens. If what happened to me was expected, I understand and I'll try the seeds again and up the dosage a bit, but I felt like the seeds just made it worse. Let me know your thoughts, Thanks spiny

OMG.........I was barely in cycle just a couple weeks and thought timing would be great for me to just nip this in the butt, I was only carrying around a shadow with an occasional hit kip 5-7 lasting maybe 10 min, I busted with 50 seeds Monday night, didn't really trip at all, just made my stomach feel a little upset and felt tired so I went to bed restless sleep but no hits, then Tuesday I had a light shadow most of the day then Tuesday night, I got slammed with a kip 8'ish at about 11pm that lasted about 45 min, then again at 1:45am with a kip 8-9 that lasted another 45 min or so then again at 4am with a kip 6-7 and it lasted about 15-25 min then got slammed again at 5:55am with a kip 6-7 that lasted about 25 min I was also very sweaty each time I don't really remember that happening before, but I had taken 2 500mg vik's I then went back to bed and woke up with a shadow at about 9:30am (thank god I have a flexible schedule) it is now 2:00pm central time and I've had that shadow all day (no hit so far). Is this normal when busting with seeds?? Not sure if I could handle another night like that?? Should I dose again Friday or Sat? Should I step up my dose? Or should I just go grab some trex, verap, vik's and amerge from my Dr. and go about my normal cycle routine. Look forward to you responses. BTW Just for the record. I am very familiar with the kip scale, I don't call it a kip 10 unless my eye completely swells shut or I go into shock

Guess I wasn't aware of that OMG.........I was barely in cycle and thought timing would be great, I was only carrying around a shadow with an occasional hit kip 5-7 lasting maybe 10 min, I busted with 50 seeds Monday night, didn't really trip at all, just made my stomach feel a little upset and felt tired so I went to bed, then Tuesday I had a light shadow most of the day then Tuesday night, I got slammed with a kip 8'ish about 11 that lasted about 45 min, then again at 1:45 with a kip 8-9 that lasted another 45 min or so now its 4am and I'm up again with a kip 6-7 and it's only been about 15 min but I can feel it slipping away, I was also very sweaty each time I don't really remember that happening before. Anyway is that whet you meant? I suppose I should dose again Friday or Sat? Should I step up my dose?

Soaked for an hour now, one more hour then down they go, little nervious

Hi Terry, long time no chat, how have you been? it's me Norm

Thanks bejeeber and Thanks Tony, That was going to be my next question (storage), guess I'll try busting this weekend. Used schrooms in the past with pretty good success, just can't find them or grow them LOL, hopefully the seeds will do the trick, the beast is coming in very slow this time, just a couple kip 5-6's a night that only last about 10 minutes and shadows most of the day. Like I mentioned before I think timing is great for me, no meds yet. Wish me luck. Thanks again everyone. PFDN Norm

Thanks Purple, I will order now, do I dose with like 50ish of these too

Are these what I need, they look different http://www.ktbotanicals.com/rivea-corymbosa-ololiuqui-seeds-p-81.html

Thank You CHfather, I think I will do that

Yep, your right on the slow delivery and I already ordered them, I got a message back saying that we received your order and will ship them as soon as we return Aug 7th, I found that a little frustrating as I paid extra for express air to receive them faster......... And timing is really good for me as I have yet to take any meds for CH, they're just ramping up so I will just have to tough it out until the seeds arrive. Thanks Everyone PFDN Norm

I can't thank everyone enough, That's the info I needed, I think I'll try 50 to start, I would just like to break this damn cycle before it gets to full speed. Thanks Again. It is truly wonderful that I can count on this site and CH.com for help, Lord knows my Dr. has no idea what to do about it. PFDN Norm

Thanks Tony!

This is what I ordered, hope these are right http://www.tranceplants.net/product-info.php?pid141.html Please let me know one way or the other, I read Moxiegirls post on how to do it. Thanks,

Is this what I need to order http://www.tranceplants.net/product-info.php?pid141.html

Hey Tony, I read Moxiegirls post and it sounds easy enough, can you tell me exactly what to order so I don't end up using the wrong thing. Thanks

I've been a member here since 2011, and a member of CH.com for over 10 years. Well, I've been good for 2 years and 3 months and the devil decided to come for another visit. I'm trying to figure out these seed things but everyone is so vague and there is a lot of different doses and kinds. I was hoping someone could clear this up for me are these the seeds I need in this link? you will have to put the w's in front of this botanicalspirit.com/rivea-corymbosa-seeds and if so how many do I take, how often and how do I take them. I would love to just hear from someone with an exact plan as to what works rather then surfing through everything and reading so many post's that I just get confused, also Schrooms always worked for me too but I tried for a solid year and couldn't grow them and of course I have no idea where to get them from. Many of you know me I just rarely if ever post, mostly I just PM Bob LOL As always Thanks so much.........Norm