fireface Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 I did my first dose this morning in an attempt to break a horrendous cycle I've been in the last couple of months. I joked about it over on the share your stories board but since deleted it as it wasn't really a joking matter. Detox was hard...had to endure 5 k8's last night because I was going to dose this morning... The experience was alright... frankly, I would have preferred to skip to whole Hallucinogenic & nauseous thing... seems to be working so far...I can feel it trying to come out ..but it hasn't yet...I'm exhausted...concerned about trying to sleep and have that trigger an attack that will break through the dose. Talked to Hipshot and he suggested go for it while I can...Have o2 coming tomorrow w/optimask...hopefully that will hold me over until next dose....sign me up for BOL. Thanks for listening... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Well you know, we all need to sleep. After a dose you may feel exhausted, it can certainly be an exhausting experience in many different ways. When i dose i always look forward to wake up after a good nights sleep. There`s a good chance of feeling much better, and sometimes even refreshed. If you get some activity, it doesn`t mean it doesn`t work. Post dose hits are not unusual, but not everyone get them. But either way it`s worth it for the result you get in the end. Post dose hits, for me, has been less and less over time. Don`t be afraid of getting some sleep, it`s not the beast who`s in control anymore you know PainFreeWishes from me Tingeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie-elf Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hon, if your body is telling you to sleep after a dose, my advice is to obey it. I know you're scared of those night hits / nap hits / post dose hits. But your body might be wanting to do some work it can only do while you're K.O'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Not good...tried to sleep... got hit within the first 1/2 hour with a 5/6...two hours later a shadow...just had a 7...I'll never make it through the night...going to have to do an Amerge. That will give me about 5 hours sleep....this doesn't feel like it's going to stop. I was doing pretty good the last few weeks...down to 1,2,3 hits a day...I may have rebounded from stopping the meds to detox. Last couple of days have really ramped up. I got about 6 hours relief from the dose...but noway was I going to sleep during that. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie-elf Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Believe it or not, the headaches getting worse / post dose hits are pretty much normal. I feel bad for suggesting you sleep now. x_x; It's a sign that you've changed something in the brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottr1966 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hang in there fireface. I'm curious what the size of your dose was. Hopefully you have 02 to deal with the post dose hits. Keep us posted on your progress. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hey Scott... Actually doing pretty good today..no hits yet..I did do an Amerge (Triptan) last night and slept all night. In retrospect I don't think I was stable enough to dose. The more I read the more I realize the difficulty of busting during a chronic high cycle...should have waited for things to settle down a little more. Probably wasted that dose, but it let me know what to expect. I don't have a scale..I just took what I had ready..threw them in a blender w/frozen orange/pineapple juice..mixed them up and swiged it. I had 10 average size shrms..8 dryed/2 fresh..guesstimated 1.5 to 2 g's. According to a scale I saw..I hit level 3 buzz. Things were warping and curving. I went out and jumped on the lawn mower and ran the sea of grass. Had the headset radio on.. I't was pretty cool... I just wasn't that into it because I was in such bad shape leading up to it. I'm going to regroup and give it another shot when I'm not taking hit after hit. Thanks for asking, Man Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Forgot to add...I did get o2 today...big H tank, but they didn't send the o2ptimask with it just the regular cheesy one..I ordered the optimask today. Haven't had any luck with o2 in the past...hopefully the optimask will make the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottr1966 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I am not the most experienced one here, but some would advise that you give it 5-7 days, see how you are, then dose again. Then maybe again in another 5-7 days. A chronic case can be hard to bust so you may have to get aggressive on the beast. Then again, some have success after one dose or two. Everyone responds differently. Some are of the opinion that you should stretch it out between doses until e HA really starts cranking. On the other hand, why suffer with pian if you have the dosing materials handy? It's an experiment that you will have to figure out what works for you. I am sure others will chime in here. For those headphones, I would highly recommend The Grateful Dead's "Anthem Of The Sun" for your next bust ;D Good luck! Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie-elf Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Yeah, wait 5-7 days to see how you do. For some people, relief isn't instant. I've saw a lot of people say it takes them 3 days or so to be able to see if it's worked for them. The o2ptimask is SO much better than the little puny ones. It worked better for me than the regular ones did. 02 doesn't work on me very well though. But I could tell a huuuuge difference. Good luck! Mystina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 My son never did get the O2 to work. Tried everything: the right mask, demand valve, personal instruction from the pros, the works. Nothing worked. That's true for very, very few people. The OptiMask will make an enormous difference, you'll see. It may take a while, but you'll find something or some combination of things that will work for you both to prevent and abort your HA's. If and when that/they stop(s) working, you'll find another. You're in the right place. Read as much as you can. You're gonna be fine. For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Went for my 2nd dose tonight...scaled back to about .75 g's Let's see what happens.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 If medically ... .75 does just as good as 1.5 to 2...I'll take .75... Please let me know... Thanks...;Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 You have to experiment. .75 may be just as good - for YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Nausea is a bad side affect... tried Zofran... after the fact... next time I'll take 1 before I dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggyparasol Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 The Shaggy always grinds or chops his mushrooms and puts it into hot peppermint tea. The peppermint is a very strong flavor and it soothes the tummy. Let it steep for 20 minutes or so, reheat and drink. Don't boil. Could get rid of the nausea??? --The Shaggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottr1966 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Here is my method: Grind the measured dose of shrooms in a coffee grinder or chop them as fine as possible if you don't have a grinder. If using a grinder, make sure it is completely dry before use. Bring one cup water to a rolling boil. Remove pot from burner and toss in the shrooms (which should now be powder) and one of those flavored vitamin C packets. Stir it a little and let it steep for at least 20 minutes. Pour through a strainer into a cup, discard the sludge (won't be much since it's a powder) and toss the cup into the fridge to chill. Drink when ready. This really cuts down on the nausea. And remember to toss in the shrooms AFTER boiling. Heating the shrooms on the stove will boil the alkaloids out. Works every time for me and you lose no effect by discarding the sludgy shrooms. The vitamin C packet gives it a very nice flavor. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottr1966 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I once ate 5 dried grams..just chewed them up. Tripped like a bandit and had gastro difficulties trying to digest the material. As intense as the trip was, the last thing I needed was a serious rumbly in my tummy! Seems at higher doses, nausea it almost inevitable but the tea method greatly minimizes it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Thanks Guys..I'll try a combo of the above next time...still feel like I want to puke... hopefully it's worth it. I just mixed them up in the blender with 1/2 can of OJ...wasn't bad going down... 5 grams Scott ???? I would have exited the universe as we know it...nausea would have been for mere mortals. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottr1966 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 It sure opened the pathway for communication with the Gian mind ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireface Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 I understand a benefit of dosing is an enlightenment of further perception..What a nice bonus..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottr1966 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yup. The reducing valve opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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