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While sansert (methysergide) has similarities to LSD, it has no bromine, according to my old Merck Index.

Edited to add:

I looked up Bromo LSD in the Merck, and damned if it isn't in there. It shows a reference to: Troxler, Hofmann, Hedv. Chim. Acta 40, 2160 (1957).

So yeah, apparently Dr. Hofmann and a colleague wrote it up in 1957.

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Well I have been researching BOL and found it has been around since the 1950's.  Phil

Yep, it's been sitting around gathering dust since the 50s just like LSD, and for the same reasons for the most part.

There is some question as to whether we can get it manufactured in the States without going through everything we have to go through for LSD.

The reason being that to make BOL, you must first make LSD, which as we all know, is not legal to do.

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If you check out the 2-Bromo thread in this section, you'll find the info on Sansert vs. Bromo


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Just thought this would be a good place to file this info.

LSD studies involving children.

Autistic Schizophrenic Children. An Experiment in the Use of D-lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD-25)


Archives of General Psychiatry, 1962; 6 (203-213)

A.M. Freedman et al

Beckley Foundation


Archive of information on the use of psychoactive drugs.

Children's Reactions to Psychotomimetic Drugs


Psychotomimetic Drugs, 1970; pp. 265-273

Lauretta Bender

Chromosome Damage Not Found in Leukocytes of Children Treated with LSD-25


Science, 1968; 159:749

Lauretta Bender et al

CIA, Mind Control and Children


In the children's unit of Creedmore State Hospital with a resident population of 450 patients, ages 4 to 15, we have investigated the responses of some of these children to lysergic acid and related drugs in the psychiatric, psychological and biochemical areas. Two groups of boys receiving daily LSD, UML (which is a methylated derivative of LSD) or psilocybin ... at first the medication was given weekly but was eventually given daily for periods of up to several months. Dosages remain constant throughout, LSD 150 mcg. (which is a standard for an adult trip), psilocybin 20 mg. daily or UML 12 mg. daily, all given in two divided doses. The average duration of treatment was 2 to 3 months. Daily. Children, 7, 9 , 11 years old ...

John Rappoport

D-lysergic Acid in the Treatment of the Biological Features of Childhood Schizophrenia


Diseases of the Nervous System, 27:43-46 1966

Lauretta Bender

Lifting the Veil: A Review of the History, Clinical-Usage and Safety of LSD, Ibogaine and MDMA in a Psychotherapeutic Context


(LSD) aroused the interest of many psychiatrists who were in no sense cultural rebels or especially radical in their attitudes. It was recommended for a wide variety of problems including alcoholism, obsessional neurosis, and childhood autism.

Christopher D. Lovett

LSD and UML Treatment of Hospitalized Disturbed Children


Recent Advances in Biological Psychiatry, 5:84-92, 1963

Lauretta Bender et al

LSD-25 Helps Schizophrenic Children


American Druggist, 146 (13):33, 1962

Lauretta Bender et al

Modification of Autistic Behavior with LSD-25


American Journal of Psychiatry, May 1966, pp. 1201-1211

James Q. Simmons III, O. Ivar Lovaas, et al

Research with Psychedelics. Some Biopsychological Concepts and Possible Clinical Applications


Archives of General Psychiatry 25: 498-510

Julian Silverman

Theory and Treatment of Childhood Schizophrenia


Acta paedopsychiatrica, 34:298-307, 1968

Lauretta Bender

Treatment of Autistic Schizophrenic Children with LSD-25 and UML-491


Recent Advances in Biological Psychiatry, 1962; 4:170-77

Lauretta Bender et al

Treatment of Childhood Schizophrenia Utilizing LSD and Psilocybin


Now that the FDA has permitted research with LSD and psilocybin to resume, we feel it is important to share examples of a remarkable experiment, the results of which were not sufficiently taken into account because this line of research was prematurely halted in the mid-sixties due to political considerations. Childhood schizophrenia is still a difficult problem to treat and causes much suffering. It is a terrible shame that research done 35 years ago is still the last word on the use of psychedelics to treat these conditions.

Gary Fischer, Newsletter of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies

Treatment of Childhood Schizophrenia with LSD and UML


Biological Treatment of Mental Illness, Proceedings II of the International Conference of the Manfred Sakel Foundation 10/31-11/3/1962, 1966; 2(4):463-91

Lauretta Bender et al

Use of LSD-25 in the Therapy of Children


Journal of Asthma Research, 5: 139-143 (1967)

Harold A. Abramson

Use of Psychedelic Agents with Autistic Schizophrenic Children


Behavioral Neuropsychiatry 1969 Nov;1(8):44-50

Robert E. Mogar, Robert W. Aldrich

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Just thought this would be a good place to file this info.

LSD studies

Great list, thanks Bob,

I find this old stuff fascinating.

I should get out more.

HereÂ’s an interesting piece from 77

Treatment of phantom limb pain with sub- hallucinogenic doses of Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD-25)


Fanciullacci ,Del Bene, Franchi, Sicuteri


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LSD studies involving children.

Psychedelic Salon Podcast

Podcast 156 – “Treating Childhood Schizophrenia with Psychedelics”

Guest speakers: Gary Fisher and Charlie Grob

September 10th, 2008

In 1963, Dr. Gary Fisher wrote a paper titled

An Investigation to Determine Therapeutic Effectiveness of

LSD-25 and Psilocybin on Hospitalized

Severely Emotionally Disturbed Children


We have given treatment to 12 patients. They have ranged in age from 4 years, 10 months to 12 years, 11 months. The average age is 9 years, 10 months. All patients are severely emotionally disturbed and are considered variants of childhood schizophrenia and infantile autism. Nine Children are considered to be childhood schizophrenics, one case of symbiotic, infantile psychosis and one case of manic-depressive psychosis.


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bromo-LSD = 2-bromolysergic acid diethylamide

Methysergide (Sansert) = 1-Methyl- d-lysergic acid- (1-hydroxybut- 2-yl) amide

They are different substances. 

I took Sansert circa 1990's.  Very expensive then (I was uninsured at the time)  Can you explain the differences in these substances?  Layman terms please.

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I took Sansert circa 1990's.  Very expensive then (I was uninsured at the time)  Can you explain the differences in these substances?  Layman terms please.

They are similar like grape juice and wine.

Sansert is taken every day for 6 months and then taking a break, and can lead to some serious side effects.

Bromo-lsd is being tested as a treatment used three times, and done.

Sort of like driving non-stop, every day for 6 months, without a seatbelt vs. driving 3 times with a seatbelt each time.


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