Chilly Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hell all, Happy holidays and happy busting! been in remission from episodic since June 8th but that bout started Dec 30th last year and was bad, besides being my longest. I’ve held to the D3 regimen since, tho dropped the D3 to 5000. Anyways, my question is whether I’ve missed this in my research but is there any correlation with tryptophan being a trigger? I’m piecing together my attack periods and at least the last few I can pinpoint as starting within days of celebratory turkey feasts. Attack periods were skipped when I refrained from turkey dinner invites. Just had a delicious turkey feast for Xmas and then leftovers I was given, and lo and behold, low level clusters or shadows since. Stressed another period may start soon. Rizatriptan’s ready and I’m upping my D3 to 20000. Seems like I’m reaching for triggers but you bunch of cluster heads seem to know more than my neurologist/specialists. Feedback is greatly appreciated. Ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Short answer to your question is probably not, since it's pretty much a myth that turkey is full of tryptophan. There's just as much in chicken or beef, and more in nuts and cheeses. However, tryptophan is much studied in relationship to CH, in part because tryptophan levels are higher than normal with people who have CH. You can find lots of studies by googling [tryptophan cluster headache]. Here's a recent one: https://thejournalofheadacheandpain.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s10194-016-0620-2 Most of them are way too complex for me. For some reason (I think because tryptophan affects serotonin), back in the day people took tryptophan pills or tryptophan precursor pills to try to prevent CH attacks. From what I have read about that, they had no real effect. Turkey wasn't listed in the "Triggers" document in the Files section here, or in the follow-up posts. All that doesn't mean you're not onto something. It could be that turkey affects you in that way, but also, maybe there's something you typically eat when you have turkey that is affecting you. For example, stuffing mix might have a lot of MSG in it, or fried onions (as many people put on "festive" dishes) can be full of MSG, as can the chicken broth or soups that some people use at special times of the year. MSG is a trigger for many. Or it might be one of the other food triggers listed in that post. (Small related personal story. I suffered really brutal attacks of pancreatitis with no recognized cause. They would come, stay for anywhere from a day to several weeks, and then go away. That went on for many years. One night I got an attack after having eaten some very bland Chinese food. I realized it wasn't spicy food . . . and that's when I could track back over the course of all those years to see that it was MSG that had been causing those attacks. Very unusual, but not unheard-of. The worst part for me was that after the first really bad attack, the doctor gave me the wise advice to go on a diet of clear liquids. So I ate canned chicken soup, and every time I did, I got an awful attack. Many canned chicken soups, like the ones I was eating, are full of MSG.) So keep looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon019 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 ....have never noticed any connection over the years but did develop a turkey allergy following chemo...allergies create inflammation which is the enemy of stasis...upping the D3 sounds like a good plan...along with some Benadryl...Batch speaks eloquently about this...seems yur already on the regimen so check his advice on dosage..... best jonathan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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