Guest Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Detox is very important, so is quitting all your meds cold turkey. One should taper off medications. I also understand your haste. Recommendations vary. Start with a 1 to 2g dose dry weight. If their decent shrooms that should be a low dose. The caffeine and 02 combination works to abort until you detox, it's tough though. I feel unseasy about quitting verap cold turkey. Hopefully someone that has done it directly will comment. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a684030.html#precautions stay in the fight,done your research? clusterbusters.com the bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi helper, One thing you will hear around is everyone is different. In most cases regarding a dose, bigger isn't necessarily better. I would try to get at least 3 doses out of the amount you have on hand. So 1 to 1.5 g in tea is a good starting place. I would not expect any "throwing up". It is normal to get post dose hits, a day or so after dosing. Sometimes things are worse before they get better. The 02 will help, if that happens. Also energy drinks like Red Bull (or Red Thunder if you have a Aldis store---much cheaper) help a lot. The taurine and caffeine are what you are after. Drinking one at the first hint of CH can abort the hit. When in cycle I have had to drink 2 Red Thunders and aborted a hit, then fell asleep with no problem. Hope this helps your immediate questions. Others will have more to offer. You are headed in the right direction. Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi Welcome to you and your dad I see you have been reading, and are on "the move", or the beast should be on the move soon. Don`t be afraid to ask or to tell us how your doing as well. We`re here for both of you. My best wishes Tingeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakinitEZ Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hey Helpin, Welcome and glad you're here to get the right info re busting. Keep in mind that it doesn't always work right away so multiple tries may be necessary. Also, you really need to wait 4+ days in between or basically nothing happens. The receptors are closed to absorbing the LSA. What he's going through right now, washing out of meds and also during the bust will be very tough for him, especially since he's already in a lot of pain. Make sure the high-flow oxygen and red bulls are available always, and, as much as possible, that his support network knows what he's up against. He may get a little crotchety. -T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 If the docs on board, that is a good thing. Lots of good advice. Pick your treatment option that you think will do best. Give em hell the bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi Helpin, Good on you for being there for your Pop. Maybe you could slow down a bit to be sure you're doing this right the first time, both so you don't waste busting supplies and so that your Dad doesn't go through any more discomfort than necessary. Be sure he's getting his O2 at a high enough level to help. He should be getting at least 25LPM through a non-rebreather mask. If not, fix that 1st, b4 you try to bust. You may find that O2 at that level, along with slamming a couple of Red Bulls as soon as he feels a hit coming on, is enough to get him through the detox. If the shrooms you have are still "leathery," let them air dry on a paper plate for a couple of days till they're "cracker dry." You'll then be able to weigh them more accurately and they'll be easier to get down. You'll also be able, if you like, to grind them into a powder with your coffee grinder, weight out what you decide for him to take and put the powder in gelatin capsules. I'd be more comfortable if your shroom supply wasn't so limited. You won't need any more for a couple of weeks but maybe try to get your hands on some more before then. It isn't necessary for your Dad to "trip" in order to bust. Many people never take more than a gram or so. But you never know. Everyone needs to experiment on themselves to find a dosage level adequate to their own physiology. I'd start with 2.0g. That should be enough. If he hasn't completely detoxed, or for any number of other reasons, he may need to take more the next time. You should have at least 2.0g left. Wait 5-7 days after the 1st try and try again. Document what happens on a time-line. Data is good. It's common for the HAs to worsen for the first few days after a bust so don't be surprised if that happens with your Dad. It's just as common for the HAs to get considerably better or to completely disappear a few hours after dosing. Exciting, huh? Read as much as you can. The ClusterBuster Files contain the most complete collection of information regarding the use of psychedelics in the treatment of CH, altogether in one place, on the net. Ask questions. We're all anxious to help. We will get you and your Dad through this and he'll be in a better place. I promise. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Good on you for being there for your Pop. Maybe you could slow down a bit to be sure you're doing this right the first time, both so you don't waste busting supplies and so that your Dad doesn't go through any more discomfort than necessary. Ditto thanks Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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