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CDog, The Forbes article is yet another example of opposition research funded by Big Pharma and their acolytes to dissuade the use of nutritional medicine including vitamin C and vitamin D3 as treatments for viral infections. The Big Pharma will die a thousand deaths if it ever gets out that nutritional medicine including the use of vitamin C and vitamin D3 are just as effective if not more so in strengthening the immune system and treating medical problems without any adverse side effects for pennies a day without a prescription than their patented pharmaceuticals. There are two gold standard RCTs completed using high dose IV vitamin C (IVC) and Hydrocortisone, Ascorbic Acid and Thiamine (HAT) Metabolic Resuscitation Therapy to treat Pneumonia, Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS), Sepsis, Septic Shock, Cytokine Storm and Multiple Organ Dysfunction Syndrome (MODS) that concluded efficacy in terms of a significantly lower all cause mortality and fewer ICU days with no indication of harms. These are the same acute medical comorbid conditions associated with COVID-19 infections. As posted earlier in this thread, New York Hospitals are reporting successful treatment of patients suffering from COVID-19 infection with high dose IV vitamin C (IVC). See: https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/ Moreover, the following link will take you to a page titled Published Research and Articles on Vitamin C as a Consideration for Pneumonia, Lung Infections, and the Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19) with no less than 29 additional links to studies, papers and case reports related to SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 infection and the use of high dose vitamin C. https://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=0a09c8844ba8f0936c20bd791130d6b6.148&s=b6603c369765a26b8432c6fde3807447 Again, you'll note that since the COVID-19 Task Force began its daily briefings, we've been told to wait 18 months for a COVID-19 vaccine and lately that Hydroxychloroquine "might be" an effective treatment. That said, neither the CDC or the President's COVID-19 Task Force have made any mention of nutritional medicine or the use of vitamins and minerals people could take at home today without need of an FDA approval or prescription to help prevent COVID-19 infection. This hasn't been an oversight, but rather, as I contend, intentional. All you need do is click on the following link for HHS leadership in the COVID-19 Task Force and the CDC and tell me there's no potential for conflict of interest or bias in favor of Big Pharma solutions. Bio. That's the way I see it. Please argue me out of it. V/R, Batch

I love this forum and the people on it. Accordingly, here's a little something that just might bring a grin to a face or two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZPW2oGNLVQ When you're done with that video, there's another that should make you think about our situation and one of the points I've been trying to get across. My reading of the tea leaves tells me there's a reason why the CDC and President Trumps COVID-19 Task Force are not telling the President or us anything about the effectiveness of vitamin C, vitamin D3 and zinc in preventing infection by the COVID-19 coronavirus. They have avoided nutritional medicine and taking vitamins like the 3rd rail on the CD Metro. Now why would the do this? My answer to this question is simple. Wait for it... The CDC, HHS and the rest of the COVID-19 Task Force want us to wait 18 months for the COVID-19 coronavirus vaccine. And when it finally arrives, the CDC, HHS and the rest of the COVID-19 Task Force will urge the President to require everyone in the US be vaccinated with the COVID-19 vaccine to preclude another terribly costly, mandatory two month paid vacation like we're experiencing now. I can hear the red BS flags hitting the floor and that's okay. A healthy scepticism is always prudent. That said, if you think I'm blowing smoke, check out the mandatory vaccinations by state to attend public school kindergarten at the following link: https://vaccines.procon.org/state-by-state-vaccinations-required-for-public-school-kindergarten/ Just remember what I'm saying, then watch the following video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbaUPOqGe8 Take care and remember to take your vitamin C, vitamin D3 and zinc. V/R, Batch

CHfather, No need to depart the fix. I've seen the error of my ways. You'll hear nothing more of my pleas to remain calm with a healthy perspective in this crisis. In keeping with this promise... PUBLIC NOTICE DUE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP’S GUIDANCE REGARDING SOCIAL DISTANCING, THE NAVY’S BLUE ANGEL FIGHT DEMONSTRATION TEAM HAS CANCELED ALL AIR SHOW PERFORMANCES DUE TO THE FACT THAT IN THE DIAMOND FORMATION, BLUE ANGEL PILOTS ARE LESS THAN 6 FEET APART. AIR FORCE THUNDERBIRD AIR SHOWS WILL BE UNAFFECTED. Take care, Your old Navy fighter pilot V/R, Batch

Thanks! Ecstatic is more like it. I had five posts going out at the same time on this news item.

New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C THIS IS HUGE! https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/ This is fantastic news! I've passed it to Fox News and the White House portal. If Fox runs a segment on this news, it might just get President Trump to tell the US and the World about vitamin C infusions as a here and now, inexpensive treatment for COVID-19 patients that doesn't require FDA approval or CDC consent. No need to wait, supplies are readily available! The next step is getting President Trump to tell the public they can take vitamin C and vitamin D3 to help prevent COVID-19 coronavirus infection. This will be Awesome! This is also the risk mitigation factor President Trump needs to end the lock-down sooner and get our great Nation back to work. Take care, V/R, Batch

CHfather, I started this thread with one of the goals preventing exactly what you’re experiencing. Angst over the unknown and information overload are always problematic. If you go back to my first post, I started providing information about what was happening and things to do like taking vitamin C and vitamin D3. Why? Because none of us knew what would happen next with the COVID-19 coronavirus and that taking these two vitamins had a high probability of preventing infection, gave us something known to offset the unknown. Knowledge. Confidence. Then I tried to put what was happening into prospective. If I reported something disturbing, I backed it up by saying I wasn’t running around with my hair on fire. Perspective. For those of you who have never met me in person, I’ve a shiny pate, although I do cultivate under my nose what grows wild elsewhere. Humor. I related the fact that my wife and I have not had a single case of the flu and less than a handful of colds since starting the anti-inflammatory regimen with 10,000 IU/day vitamin D3 and cofactors in October of 2010. Confidence. In another life, I’ve gone through NBC training and sat through highly classified briefings on the after effects of NBC warfare that made what little hair on my head stand up and were so disturbing it did require a shopping cart stacked with bales of TP. Perspective, Facts and Humor. Regarding your quote of my words, I wouldn’t change a thing… That said, hind sight is always 20:20. I should have added, “take your vitamin C and vitamin D3, drink another beer…” Missed opportunity. Perspective. Reality. We’re all along for the ride during this pandemic as there’s little we can do to change the course of events, or the needless loss of lives, but we can try. Accordingly, I try not to get my tail in a knot or let my hair catch fire over something I can’t control, so I what I can do, then watch to see if things turn out like I expect. There are things to do. Last week, I took a week’s supply of vitamin C, vitamin D3, a couple gallon jugs of orange juice and a big bag of 3 oz paper cups to the local Fire and Rescue station’s Fire Fighters and EMTs. I also provided a paper on how to mix the vitamin C with fruit juice and two pages of study result graphics illustrating the safety and efficacy of these two vitamins in preventing viral infections like colds and flu. I didn’t say it would prevent COVID-19 corona virus infections, but they got the point, smiled and said “this should work just fine” and thanked me. I’ll do it again in a week as it appears it will be Easter before the lock-down ends and the end of April before this pandemic runs its course and fizzles out. Finally, regarding your comment “This ain't a COVID-19 website” Correctamundo! We’re inundated with pandemic news 7 X 24 daily. If my posts have increased the angst during this pandemic, then I’ve screwed the pooch. I'll come out of afterburner and throttle back. Take care, V/R, Batch

Hey Rod, BOF, What we have here is a classic no $hit conundrum. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I still say take the vitamin C and vitamin D3 as a hedge. At least we know they work to build a strong immune system and that helps prevent colds and flu. The following might alleviate some of the angst until the President makes a decision when and how to end the shelter in place and restart the economy. When that happens, people can go nuclear or... sit back, have another beer and watch what happens. Sorry if any find this offensive. Toilet humor is almost always therapeutic at times like this. Take care, V/R, Batch

Pebblesthecorggi, Understand... However, as there is no down-side safety issue in taking 3 grams/day vitamin C or 5000 IU/day vitamin D3, and there is more than sufficient up-side potential based on substantial evidence in their efficacy in preventing and treating colds and flu, there's much to gain an nothing to lose at a cost of 12 cents/day. Nothing is 100% effective or certain save for death and taxes. Moreover, as none of us gets out of here alive, at 75, my goal is to maintain the best quality of life possible. I take far more vitamin C and vitamin D3 than listed above. Joyce and I have been taking the anti-inflammatory regimen since I developed it in October of 2010. Neither of us has had the flu since then and our incidence of colds is down to one every 3 to 4 years. We've also had school age grand kids and their friends running around the house dripping with cold and flu bugs several times a year so we don't live in a bubble. Take care, V/R, Batch

Hey Microdosing, Great question and you're OK! There's a very simple reason why the nostril on the hit side gets the gush and stuffy during a CH. The pain and neruogenic inflammation during an active CH hit triggers the eye on the hit side to water. This starts happening between Kip-5 and Kip-7 pain levels for most CHers and the flow increases as the pain goes up. The tearing caused by CH hits ≥ kip 5 drains down the nasolacrimal ducts at the inside corner of the eye next to the nose on the hit side. The saline tear fluid exits these ducts into the nasal cavity, as its name implies. That means tears from the eye start running out the nose. The lining of the nasal cavity on the hit side reacts by swelling and this gives us the stuffy feeling. So much for today's lesson on anatomy and pathophysiology of a CH. There is a solution to this problem... For the CHers who know what I'm about to say... Wait for it... I would start taking the anti-inflammatory regimen. You can download the posted version of this CH and MH preventative treatment protocol at the following vitaminDwiki.com link. http://www.vitamindwiki.com/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=7708 For reference, readers of my webpage at vitaminDwiki.com have downloaded 47,321 copies of this CH and MH preventative treatment protocol since 21 Jan, 2017. That's an average of 40 downloads a day. Word on the efficacy of this regimen is getting out. Even if you're not ready to start this regimen or you're satisfied mm are controlling your CH effectively, taking 3 grams/day vitamin C and at least 5000 IU/day vitamin D3 can help build a strong immune system. MM can't do that. Vitamin C supports your immune system. Vitamin C helps to kill viruses and reduces the symptoms of infection. It's not a COVID-19 "cure," but nothing is. It might just save your life, though, and will definitely reduce the severity of the infection. If someone tells you it's not proven, consider two things: 1. Nothing is proven to work against COVID-19, because it is a new virus First identified and named by the WHO 11 Feb Its genome first sequenced on 25 Feb, No RCTs of the COVID-19 coronavirus have been completed, but a lot have started. 2. Vitamin C has worked against every single virus including influenzas, pneumonia, and even poliomyelitis. See the following link for details. https://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=a5e00132373a7031000fd987a3c9f87b.150&s=b6603c369765a26b8432c6fde3807447 Take care and take vitamin C, V/R, Batch

Sunday 22 March 10:19 PDT To All, You will get a better understanding of the dynamics associated with the COVID-19 pandemic if you read through the following link. It's lengthy but very informative. https://zerohedge.whotrades.com/blog/43910127594 Bottom line, the pandemic will be over by the end of April no matter what we do. Accordingly, we need to stop social distancing, send kids back to school and reopen the economy within a week to 10 days or the flattening the curve actions will result in irrecoverable damage to our economy. In short, the cure is worse than the infection. Take care and please take at least 3 grams/day vitamin C and 5000 IU/day vitamin D3. Kids under 100 lbs body weight can take 50 IU vitamin D3 per pound of body weight per day. For a weely dose, its 350 IU vitamin D3 per pound of body weight per week. These doses are well within the RDAs. V/R, Batch

Hey Rod, Spot on about getting plenty of good sleep. At 75, I need a good 7 hours sleep then back that up with a short nap after eating. There are some fascinating studies on sleep. One such study centered on the brain's lymphatic vascular system that was only discovered in 2015. This study suggested the brain's lymphatic vascular system (Glymphatic system or or glymphatic clearance pathway) provided another means of flushing the byproducts of metabolism from the brain during sleep and was likely responsible for the refreshed feeling we have after a night of quality sleep. Sleep also helps our immune system get ready for the coming day. Our immune system is also the first line of defense against foreign antigens including virus. Take care and please take vitamin C and vitamin D3. They help our immune system fight off viral infections like colds and flu. V/R, Batch