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Funny, Jon talks about having a hit in the office to show them the pain that we endure. I would love to have one in front of my Neuro. He is kind and good, but has no idea. Most of our meds are actually hand-me-downs from migraine treatment. Some work, at a different dosage, others work not at all. We are too large of a patient population to be called an Orphan Disease and get special treatment. We don't fit in any box and we get almost NO research into what might help us. So, we ride on the coattails of Migraine. Heck, even our use of MM is migrating to the Migraine community and LSD testing is sort of being taken over by other illnesses since it is in testing now for PTSD, Clusters, and Migraine. Migraine is the one that catches the public eye. I had to take my husband for my second Neuro visit to kill the 'migraine' mission the doc was convinced was the right path. My descriptions mattered not to him. Female = Migraine. After my husband told him he was sick of loosing his wife at 8pm every night, he perked up and listened to me. Yes, they want to peg Migraine and I think it is because it is easier to successfully treat than CH. Most are in over their heads sadly.

i am convinced that the drugs the docs pushed (verapamil, triptans) made my bouts worse. big pharma has done nothing for me except make the only drug that helps me illegal. too bad lsd wasn't profitable enough for sandoz. it sucks but such is life. about 10 years ago i decided to stop all medication preventative and abortive. i stick to O2, Red Bull, D3 and Psychs. So far i'm managing this godforsaken disease better myself than all the highly educated neurologists i have been to. i am not disregarding medicine and science, it's just that in this case science hasn't done shit for me. i don't expect huge changes either. even with bigger groups of sufferers (migraine) medicine is fishing in murky waters and throwing everything but the kitchen sink aht the patients...

...no truer words! 20 years ago, in the depths of intense CH, i had access to pure morphine. it didn't even TOUCH the pain of CH, but twice, and twice only, i took enough to knock me out because i was f'ing desperate. it was a wake up call to get this shit under control. morphine is definitely NOT the kind of drug to be self medicating with, especially under duress and w/o full mental faculties. thereafter got a number of years of good success with verapamil and oxygen, until ultimately dialing in the O2, energy drinks, D3 regimen....and a zomig ns in pocket as pacifier....

Deleted. I had thought maybe you just wanted to doubly emphasize your point. Seriously though, dunno why the pesky double posts happen.

It's a baffling but stark reality that none of what has helped many of us thus far, has come from a doctor. That in itself speaks unnecessary vocalized volumes... I have always wished that I could get paired up with a doctor that had CH but due to it's rare nature I've had no luck. The best I've gotten has come from none other that the amazing folks on here. If your brain is real mean to you, this place is a library full of real methods and means.

LOL. I'm not even sure how I did it? Thank you Jeeb.

Crazy thing is that most of us cluster heads wouldn't touch half of what the common day doctor is willing to prescribe for pain as it does nothing for our sort of pain.