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A discussion / Conference/Exhibition, Seminar on scientific research with psychedelic drugs

Centre for Neuropsychopharmacology Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine London - Department of Medicine - Division of Brain Sciences in conjunction with the Beckley Foundation

Chaired by Professor David Nutt

Contact: Robin Carhart-Harris

12 Jun 2013

10:00 - 18:00

Wolfson Education Centre

Hammersmith Campus

Open to all

http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/medicine/departmentofmedicine/brainsciences/eventssummary/event_8-4-2013-15-31-37

http://www.scribd.com/doc/140235506/Come-to-p-day

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At last, the edifice of drugs prohibition is starting to crumble

"We are seeing a dramatic shift in favour of drug decriminalisation and unlocking the therapeutic potential of psychedelics"

http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/2013/06/at-last-the-edifice-of-drugs-prohibition-is-starting-to-crumble/

"After decades in dormancy, the Cinderella of science is putting on her slippers and setting off for the ball. Amanda Fielding", Beckley Foundation.

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Jon Sutton reports from a discussion on scientific research with psychedelic drugs

http://www.thepsychologist.org.uk/blog/11/blogpost.cfm?threadid=2308&catid=48

A follow-up with magnetoencephalography (MEG) proved it was an effect on layer V pyramidal neurons, 'the first time in humans we've been able to show an effect of a particular neural subclass on human experience'. Yet journals turned the findings away as too specialised for their readers. You get the feeling Nutt gets used to rejection: the UK support group for cluster headaches - described as 'worse than childbirth' by some sufferers - refused to countenance research with mushrooms or LSD because they're illegal, and Nutt doesn't know whether he can use a non-psychedelic version - 2 Bromo-LSD - because no one knows whether it's legal or not!

Most frustratingly, Nutt says, 'drug laws have stopped people even thinking there are questions to be asked'. Or again, in the words of Huxley: 'By simply not mentioning certain subjects... totalitarian propagandists have influenced opinion much more effectively than they could have by the most eloquent denunciations.'

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Reminds me of this evenings experience....

Most frustratingly, Nutt says, 'drug laws have stopped people even thinking there are questions to be asked'. Or again, in the words of Huxley: 'By simply not mentioning certain subjects... totalitarian propagandists have influenced opinion much more effectively than they could have by the most eloquent denunciations.'

But I persevered.  Waiting for the diatribe to be expelled.  Waiting for the silly comments to fade.  Still more waiting for the horror stories of "my sisters nephew's best friend is still in a mental institution..blah, blah, blah.  Waiting.  Goading.  Inserting facts.  Pleasantly smiling.  Responding calmly.

Finally 45 minutes has gone by and the real discussion began.  So worth the waiting. 

Thanks Shocked.  I enjoy the links you p0st.

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A Discussion on Scientific Research with Psychedelic Drugs, 12th June 2013, at Imperial College London, Centre for Neuropsychopharmacology, part 1 with Professor David Nutt FMedSci

"Why study psychedelic drugs: from presumptive prejudice to a Neuroscientific Enlightenment?"

Busting at – 39:40 to 41:40

RE; BOL/CH

“we are not sure if this drug is legal or illegal in this country,…we’re planning to do the study and see if they arrest us”

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How sad that he approached the UK cluster support group (which must be OUCH UK) about a BOL study and they said "oh we couldn't possibly support research using an illegal drug".

What kind of bleeding idiots are these OUCH UK arseholes?! My God, do these tossers have crumpets lodged up their bums or something? (I'm of english ancestry so I like to think I have license to say such things).

I see 2 disturbing things here right off the bat:

1) OUCH UK is run by complete unadulterated d***heads

2) Professor Nutt didn't think to approach a US group (or maybe he had to stay within the bounds of the UK).

OUCH US, when they were still in operation, would have enthusiastically supported a study, as obviously would clusterbusters and likely ch.com too..

Just to make my position perfectly clear: BUGGER OFF, OUCH UK.  :D

(this is strictly directed to the wankers running OUCH UK, doing their deranged utmost to suppress the knowledge of, and scientific research on BOL, the most promising CH preventative with the least side effects to date.

Not directed towards the rank and file members there, whom I pray can overthrow the current horrifically misguided regime ASAP).

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