Thai Monkey Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I have recently been advised to try high purity cocaine as a 'buster'. The first time I tried a .05g, insufflated, it left me pain free for 24 hours. I then tried again 48hours later when pain returned. So far it has stopped my 'Kip 8s' in their tracks. Has anyone else tried this or heard anything about this??? I do not intend to repeat this unless I am above Kip 8 as it's not cheap and I do not like the idea of having do use this substance repeatedly. Any advice or stories would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoxieGirl Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 To be honest, I have no experience with cocaine. So my advice is purely academic. If it helps you, then my first response is 'great!'. This is along the same vein that 4-6 shots of vodka will stop one of my migraines in their tracks. My GP and Neuro both said that I should use it with caution. 1, there is a risk of addiction, but 2, the more I use this as an abortive, the less effect it'll have and I'll have to keep increasing the dose. Vodka is my last resort bullet for a really bad migraine. A benefit to psychedelics that that their risk of addiction is very low. From everything I've read, cocaine is always in the top 10 list of most addictive drugs. This, at least in my mind, makes psychedelics much safer. I wish I could take the moral high ground and say that I'd never taken something to cure CH that didn't cause distress to another part of my body, but I was once on Topiramate for 18 months. Topiramate taught me to be very careful about side affects. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinearmy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 truthly ive been down this road and have to admit that i had the easiest ever period of clusters ive ever had. only problem being i turned into a gurning moron wanting more and more with perverted thoughts. i couldnt control the substance it controlled me and for that reason its not for me. being totally radical i reckon smoking it would be better for the clusters but thats a whole other set of problems again i wouldnt have control so cant go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinearmy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 just to add i wonder what pharmaceutical grade cocaine would be like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Monkey Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Thanks to both of you for your answers. I tried the cocaine route twice and it was successful both times in leaving me pain free for over 24 hours. I used it Saturday just gone and it kept me med free long enough to have a busting dose of Libertys. I am still pain free but have a mild shadow. I am staying med free in order to repeat my Liberty dose. As it goes I prefer Psychedlics over anything anyway but I was struggling to source any. Last year I spent drank Ayahuasca over 2x5 night periods and I suffered no clusters at all. I don't know whether I just had a year off anyway but it did seem to help!! Thanks again for the replies!!' Ps- the purity was tested at over 90% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatHurtsMyHead Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 TMonkey, Curious about your Ayahuasca experience: Were you in cycle when you took it, and your CH went away? Or were you already out of cycle, and just stayed out of cycle after the Ayahuasca? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Monkey Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 My first vist to Holland where I had my first Ayahuasca ceremony was mid-cluster. During my 3 nights drinking I had no CH but on the plane home I had quite a bad one. Once I was home I had none. I returned twice over the next 12 months and this is my first cycle since I started using Ayahuasca. The last time I was there was January. In total I have been 2 years free and I have missed 2-3 cycles over that time. It is the longest I have been free of CH for 22 years. It may be coincidental but then again it may not. I am hoping to return there in July. The ceremonies are run by Shaman from either Brazil or Peru, depending on who's been booked. I have had experiences with Shaman from both the Shuar (Peru) and the Huni Kuin (Brazil) tribes and both have benefited me greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatHurtsMyHead Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 TMonkey, Plane rides are notorious for being CH triggers. Thanks for the info: It wouldn't surprise me at all if Ayahuasca doesn't keep the CH away similar to the other hallucinogens. That stuff is a pretty strong trip though. For preventative busting, I'd prefer to dose with something a little softer on the mind. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Monkey Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 The 'strength' of the 'trip' is not what I expected from the Ayahuasca. It changed each time I drank it. Sometimes I would be facing a variety of inner demons personified by a visual battle raging inside my mind and other times I would be sat comfortably with a group of people relaxing and feeling blissful. Only on the odd occasion did I 'travel' deeply into the visionary realms one heard about so often when Ayahuasca is discussed. On these occasions I was escorted by a 'hummingbird' and it was thoroughly pleasant albeit brief. Also, vomiting becomes a pleasure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoxieGirl Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I read the book 'this is your country on drugs', which I'd recommend to anyone interested in the 'war on drugs.'. The author talked a lot about Ayahuasca, interesting stuff. Not sure I'd ever want to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I have asked someone I trust who shall go nameless unless he reads this and wants to jump in. he said Cocaine will not give me the same success as shroomies, however they are seeing very good results with Ecstasy. Sounds like the coke is a good abortive and god knows anything that will abort belongs in the tackle box... especially if you can leave it there until you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Monkey Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 It's aborted a few more episodes and I have tried smaller doses effectively. Thus far I'd say its having a 60% success at stopping or reducing attacks. I'm keeping it as minimal as possible and only if I head up to 'Kip 8' or above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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