clankfu Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Has there been any progress on this front? Any new clinical trials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 No. [Edited due to the fact that I was WRONG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant2 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Not ever going to happen. There are a variety of reasons, some objective and some subjective. I'll withhold my personal opinions, and only point out the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Ha, I thought I'd try my hand at some Potter style brevity in a reply there. That "no" is just as far as I've seen here or heard, but I'm not exactly 100% in the loop or a source of late breaking info for BOL-148 developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clankfu Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Not ever going to happen. There are a variety of reasons, some objective and some subjective. I'll withhold my personal opinions, and only point out the obvious. Would love to hear your personal opinion on it but understand if you rather not say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleyoop Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm sure if there's any new news on BOL 148, it will come out in the conference and be passed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant2 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Hey Klank. . .I'd love to share it, actually. But it's probably not smart, there are far too many extremely strong opinions on the other side, so I'll stick to the facts. Entheogen Corp. hasn't published any updated research since 2010. When John Halpern presented at the ClusterBusters conference in Chicago last year, he basically said, "Sorry, I wish I had something to report." Neither Halpern nor anybody from Entheogen is scheduled to be at the conference this weekend. Slightly my opinion here. . .when the interested parties failed to get orphan drug status or achieve financial backing from a major pharma player, that's basically where it ended. A brominated LSD molecule would be an almost impossible sell to the FDA (and most other nations' policy-makers as well) without very, very deep pockets to ram it through clinical trials. That will probably get me flamed a little, but my interest is in outcomes. I don't like seeing CH patients sitting/waiting/wishing that someone is working on a miracle drug. Know what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clankfu Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Slightly my opinion here. . .when the interested parties failed to get orphan drug status or achieve financial backing from a major pharma player, that's basically where it ended. A brominated LSD molecule would be an almost impossible sell to the FDA (and most other nations' policy-makers as well) without very, very deep pockets to ram it through clinical trials. Yea, when I did a search, I came across their Indiegogo campaign which only raised around $2000. No bueno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant2 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I stand slightly corrected. The project has (potentially) a new owner in Savant HWP, Inc. I wouldn't change my opinion that it probably won't happen, but at least it looks like a more prepared and experienced company is in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Color my previous "no" as definitely 100% WRONG now, thank gawsh. There is forward motion again with BOL-148, as revealed on 9/20/2014 at the clusterbusters conference. There will be the formality of toxicity tests, then a plan for initial trials in Europe. My impression was that "if lucky" the program to bring it to market it could take 5 years or so. No ironclad guarantees were issued regarding whether the efforts would ultimately be fruitful. Sorry I didn't retain more info about it, but I believe there is to be an announcement this monday 9/22/14 at http://www.savanthwp.com// The same company is working on a non-hallucinogenic version of ibogaine: http://www.savanthwp.com/SFBusinessTimes_Jan2013.pdf The only downside to me about any of this is that animal trials will be involved. Sorry, but IMO that is completely unnecessary and uncalled for with BOL-148 (it may be required by the FDA though....?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clankfu Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Thanks for the news. Hopefully, something substantial comes of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mff181 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Indeed this weekend's presentation by Savant HWP was promising and lends me a bit of hope thought I tend to be pessimistic about these situations. GOGO BOL 148! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallangoti Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Would be nervous to try it, but there's some site (Chinese owned I think) advertising sales of BOL 148 out of a place in Michigan as "research" chemicals. http://www.farms.com/classifieds/seed-feed-crops/other/2-bromo-lsd-bromo-lsd-1p-lsd-bol-148-for-sale-120651.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Here is another website. Does anyone have references or information about this product? https://www.europechemicals.com/2-bromo-lsd/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 When I briefly looked into this quite a few years ago, you had to have serious documentation as a researcher to get BOL from sites like that. University, registered research lab, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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