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Morning guys. I have removed the offensive content and the replies to the content so that the thread still held together. To those who tried to calm things down and stop the tirade that was posted, I thank you. The offender should understand this site and its' reason for existence. If they disagree with the founders work and reason for creating this site, then there are other sites to join and become involved in. Places that have the same world view that they hold and where they can find the support they want and need. Staying here to criticize is not appropriate. Period.

Completely respecting your reluctance, and I feel like you're not a person to be led somewhere you don't want to go. So just FYI . . . There is often a misunderstanding that a "trip" is part of the treatment. It isn't. It's just a side effect, and as Jeebs said somewhere in a thread like this one, RC seeds at therapeutic doses are virtually guaranteed to have zero psychedelic effects. It is completely legal to buy and possess them in California. Preparation is extremely simple. Consuming them is unlawful. You can start at a very low dose. There was a time when RC seeds were considered a better busting agent than MM, but MM gets all the media attention, and many people here seem to think it and L are the big hammers. Seeds still might be considered better than MM (because their structure is closer to LSD). This is the original post on the topic: https://clusterbusters.org/forums/topic/684-5-lsa-seeds-of-the-vine/?tab=comments#comment-8326 This covers a lot of bases: https://clusterbusters.org/forums/topic/2353-moxiegirls-seed-recipe/?tab=comments#comment-29101 Blah blah blah here: https://clusterbusters.org/forums/topic/6816-number-of-rc-seeds-to-take-some-thoughts/ There are some small contradictions among these files, but if you start a thread in one of the protected boards I'm sure those can be ironed out.

I can understand you being worried about the trip . I'm 53 and really don't want to be tripping myself .As CHfather said RC seeds have zero trip effect , but also I'm not trying to push you in to it just saying it's worked so well for me and many other . Plus I'm in a lot better place mentally I don't have such bad PTSD my head space seems to be in a lot better place .I know I've got my o2 to abort attacks but know I feel I have a tool that gives me long periods of pain free days whilst I'm in the joys of a cycle . I've not used it before a cycle yet but I will be doing that when I come out of this cycle in in at present . I just feel so much more at ease about the whole CH hell I'm in

This tid bit made all the difference. I'm scared of the trip that's all. But this makes me move one foot in front of the other. Thank you so much!

@Anthobob, thank you for letting us know about your experiences! That information helps a lot. Yes to all that. Busting basics are listed under the blue "New Users . . . " banner at the top of each page. An example of something else you might want to learn about is the Vitamin D3 regimen that has helped virtually everyone who has seriously undertaken it. I think the latest version is here, but I always feel like there are new wrinkles that might not be reflected there: https://vitamindwiki.com/Cluster+headaches+substantially+reduced+by+10%2C000+IU+of+Vitamin+D+in+80+percent+of+people The search bar at the top right of the page can sometimes be helpful, but if you start a thread you'll get more direct advice.

Prior, when doomsday approacheth, is a super effective time - a tactic that has prevented entire cycles for folks such as meself.

Juss you didn't cause anything buddy as I said we we're having a good in depth adult conversation, I just think someone took it the wrong way and took the opportunity to attack for no reason , but again people have the right to say what they like as long as they are willing to except that everyone else has the right to say what they like .my only limit on that is if it becomes racist. I'm educated at a reasonable level and like to have good discussions about lots of different subjects , as I said I've learnt a lot from you and still am so no need to apologize for something you didn't cause buddy

I’m a 23 year cluster sufferer. I discovered high flow oxygen as the best non synthetic/least side effect way to mitigate onset of “hell” about 10 years ago. Of course cost has been out of pocket since insurance won’t cover it. Well, I had a heavenly 3 year remission until 2 days before our thanksgiving vacation to cabo. After the two bouts I muscled through during travel and the first day in cabo spent crying with head buried in the couch, my friend found a doctor that rented me an oxygen concentrator for $75 a day. It helped but def longer than straight high flow O2 from bottle. While sucking on the O2 in hotel room I researched latest breakthrough treatments and found this site advocating psilocybin as an option. I immediately ground up and capsulated all the shrooms I had (I had some laying around I used a couple times of year recreationally) and started microdosing in lieu of getting oxygen. It worked about as well as O2. I read a bit about vaporized microdose DMT as a possible relief as well but had a hard time finding it until today. I was handed a dmt vape pen by a friend that heard I was wanting to try anything that might help my headaches. When my 9:00 pm headache started to build I took a @1 second hit off the dmt vape pen and felt the headache drift away in seconds! I had a slight visual anomaly for a couple minutes ( the grass under foot seemed to be moving) but it subsided quickly. The small hit from the dmt was mostly sub psychotropic and CH was gone. I’m going to keep using this method and will post results through the rest of this episode of headaches. I hope results continue to be as positive as tonight’s first try.

Bosco you really do need to give busting a go. I was really hesitant to give it a go , mainly down to my job , but i've had so many pain free day during this s--t cycle because of it, it has really been worth it

Welcome to the board Anthobob. Sorry you need to be here, but glad that you found us. Yes. DMT has been used by some with good success. Not sure how you are using the word 'microdose', but we consider that a very low dose of 0.3gm's or so. The standard is sort of a level one dose of about 1.2gm's. Enough to know that you took some. Please poke around and read a bit. There is a protocol and method that is used. Normally three busts all five days apart. You will find a lot of info in the Clusterbuster Files section of the board. You could start your own thread too, just to introduce yourself to the community.

I neglected to mention I started the psilocybin microdose immediately after I got home from cabo. No, I didn’t have shrooms with me in Mexico! Im 2 weeks into episode and the headaches have been increasing in intensity so the dmt experience is all the more incredible! Mere seconds to no pain!