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Head injuries and CHAS


Sue mcdonald
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I dont kno.

Is there direct correlation? Indirect correlation? Causal? I dont kno.

I grew up ice skating, figure skating n had knocks on the head - but look at the thousands? Millions of fellow ice skaters? Juss came out of hockey world as did my dad & brothers and that fer sure ;) cause some head bangers (the cutting edge movie? "Toe pick"? ;) then i switched early on into horses. And theres a lotta head injuries there, too. I remember 1ce being out at dennehy's in denver and girl fell off her horse jumping the outside hunt course. Her horse came running back. Someone grabbed horse, I n another ran to her. They went to call ambulance - she was crying she'd broken her leg. I asked if she cld walk? She was prolly all of 14? She said, no. I broke my leg before when i fell off once. (See? multiple falls at speed n w force) Then she rly commenced sobbing because prior? Shed stolen her big sister's tall black *custom* leather english boots (abt $$1,000.00/per now ;) and at er? Theyd cut her sister's boot off her leg. Boy was she in hot water and i cld relate. So, i said? How abt if i pull ur boots off? I think i can do that and not hurt ur leg... ?... ?

She stopped crying and said. Yes. I pulled and boot came off easily. She went to hospital, i went home. Saved her a** :) but how many ppl ride? And fall from up hi? The reason god made ponies- for kids.... TY for pony breeders like molly butler ;) n donna and paul who gave kids lessons on ponies.

Urs in good deeds ;) jury's out on head trauma - am thinking that wld -fall- under? Just the story we tell ourselves :)

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I don't know about the head trauma thing... I think nearly all people, weather when young falling from a bike or when a bit older with a more serious accident have had some type of trauma to the head. I think if anything it may speed the process up some how (not sure that there is any proof of that). I have had my fair share of falling off horses albeit never on my head, but I did have a pretty good incident about a year prior to the onset of CH, long story short I hurt my back trying to move a mattress, tried to walk to the bathroom and just as I reached the travertine vanity I passed out, took a chunk of the counter with me .. 13 stitches to the lower exterior jaw and 24 inside the mouth..

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It could be, of course, that it takes some very specific type of head trauma to do something that causes CH -- a bump in just the "right" place that discombobulates the hypothalamus in some way, for example.  I don't have a strong feeling one way or another about this possible cause, just sayin'.

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When I was going through a 'work-up' the first time, it was 1971. I had an EKG done. They were wigged out with the results and I was given an explanation. "Your Delta Waves are messed up. Here, look.' Was it the hit or not? I do not know.

When I told them that I had had a concussion that knocked me out for 20 minutes three months prior, I was told 'We will provide whatever you need.' So, yeah, weirded them out. I was told the that time frame for post knockouts was prime for severe headaches. Might be something else today of course. Twas a few lifetimes ago.

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It’s funny how Doctors try and point to concussions and head trauma when trying to figure out either migraines or Clusters. I have had 13 concussions that I know of during my racing career.  The doctors always try to connect the two. The problem is my migraines started before I got my first concussion and they have not changed in frequency, duration or intensity from the concussions. 

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23 hours ago, mit12 said:

It’s funny how Doctors try and point to concussions and head trauma.

 The doctors always try to connect the two.

The problem is my migraines started before I got my first concussion and they have not changed in frequency, duration or intensity from the concussions. 

My migraines started after i hurt my low back 1980. But rly?? As ive gone deeper into learning abt chas? I remembered i had headaches daily riding schl bus home. Ate n had a coke n they improved. Went completely away jr yr h.s. and i cant even remember any ha's from 69 - 80. I think i maybe had aspirin in my med cabinet. Trauma induced from skating?? Maybe? Dont kno. I remember a lady who wanted all the kids to wear a hat for head protection from falls during free skate times. My mom said i didnt have to because i had a ponytail n that wld protect my head in falls... i just dont remember falling and hitting my head, tho.  (That was head protect stuff back in 60s). U r right. Docs like to connect the 2.

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