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Re: the caffeine - as long as you’re continuing to experience nice quick O2 aborts, no need to go there with it IMO, but when additional help is needed, here’s a decidedly strange and inexplicable thing: Those of us who have braved caffeine with our O2 for wake up attacks have pretty much universally found that somehow we can still unexpectedly go right back to sleep afterwards!!!!?? 5 hour energy type shots are popular, as they also contain plenty of taurine (which is thought by some to also be beneficial), and of course they contain just a fraction of the sweetener you'd get from an energy drink. I would hope they would also contain only a fraction of the other junk.

Greetings and sorry they are back - it sucks. My one fall from remission whilst using the D3 regimen saw me find o2 and the cluster o2 kit for the first time - I was getting o2 slap backs but as Bejeeber said that’s not bad to have several hours in between nocturnal attacks, I was aborting in 6 minutes or so and getting a slap back an hour later. An amazing advocate in our community Pete McCormick suggested to try staying on the oxygen for the same amount of time it took to abort the attack but at a lower flow rate, when I did that I found an immediate improvement back to my normal 2-3 attacks per night, aborted and back to bed in around the 15-20 minute mark which was an amazing improvement on previous abortives. I only needed the o2 setup for a total of four days before higher levels of vitamin D3 put me back into remission, thank God. Can’t add much about caffeine suffice to say some warriors use a strong black coffee rather than energy drinks and report it works, if concerned / wary about energy drinks, I know I am. I’d just straight hit up the oxygen upon waking rather than caffeine and save a strong black coffee or otherwise for shadows during the day. All that being said and in lieu of challenges obtaining Emgality, is the vitamin D3 regimen an option for you as another tool to add in the kit?

I've had a similar rebounding experience with O2 aborts of wake up attacks, and have noted others also reporting it enough that it appears commonplace to me. The rebounds can occur as frequently as every hour or so, something I'm personally familiar with. Your 3 hours between rebounds is relatively luxurious, and actually worth savoring from the perspective of some. It could be a good idea to have contingency planning for going with higher O2 flow, and having awareness of advanced breathing techniques and the incorporation of caffeine, just in case your success so far with aborting attacks at 8 liters doesn't hold (I don't wanna go all negative and alarm anyone, but sometimes the 8-10 liters doesn't hold, and beefing things up is required). Staying on the O2 longer after the attack is fully aborted might help extend the time between the wake up rebounds.

Most that stay on O2 after the attack is aborted find that 10 minutes seems to be the sweet spot. My advice is to experiment to find what may work for you best. My personal feeling on rebounds like this (totally unscientific, I'm not a doctor) is that either the attack wasn't fully aborted (comes back quickly) or that it's a separate attack that would have happened anyway (comes back after an hour or so). Who really knows for certain?