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Thank you to all and lol @Bejeeber!!! Jeebs, in 1972 I went to work twisting wrenches at a little vw repair shop in Shawnee, Oklahoma.....it was there on.my 1st day that I met, and later became biz partners, with John Robert (Jack) Thorpe who just happened to be the youngest son of the great Indian athlete Jim Thorpe!! Jack was several years my senior (me at 25 and him at 37)....within a few hours after meeting Jack we were bs'ing and he said to me, "Chief, I'm gonna tell ya an absolute truth that you can take to the bank.....The older ya get, the faster time flys"! I have found that statement to be 1000% accurate!!! At my age, Jan 1st feels like it was just a few days ago!!! Of course, at my age, my short term memory is in the shit can as well so maybe it was just a few days ago!! Lmao! When Spiny and I spoke on the phone the other evening (she's just a couple years younger than me) we agreed that we both suffer from CRS=can't remember shit....we both.lost our train of thought several time during our marathon hour long plus conversation and the one of us would have to remind the the other what we'd been talking about!! Im tellin ya, old age ain't for the faint of heart!!!

I have to chime in and agree with @CHfatherwith regard to naratriptan @Jimmy Martinez!!! Early on in.my cluster journey I was misdiagnosed with atypical migraine and was first prescibed naratriptan followed by amytriptaline. As he stated, both are in pill form and both are migraine drugs! Back then ( over 40 years ago) I think it was quite common for docs to prescribe both drugs for off lable treatment of clusters! However, I rarely see someone post that it was prescribed to them in the last 20 years!! And, my personal experience is that neither did a fecking thing for my clusters....AND... the amytriptaline produced some of the absolute most horrendous side effects of any pharmaceutical I've ever ingested!!! DD

There have been reports of CHers staying on medium-ish level dosages of verapamil and still successfully busting. [EDIT]: I just saw this pertinent bit about verapamil from my exceptionally trusted source, @CHfather, in another thread:

O2 can really be a game changer! Do yourself a favor and check out the high flow oxygen therapy portion of this site which includes great info on the dynamics of usage, set up and techniques. Not sure if it's the same for you with using Maxalt, but for me it literally only gave me a 10 to 15 minute break before the cluster bunny was back coupled with making me feel sick and extending the duration of my attacks, same with any triptans I've ever used so just be mindful of that. I totally get the need to use them though especially when your brain seems to be attempting to off you in the most painful way imaginable...As for wins/prevents there are lots so thats the good news! You are already aware of the D3 reg but you do indeed need to take ALL the vitamines and it would be great if you did a loading dose after doing a bit of blood work to see what your baseline is. Other methods can be read about and responded to on here by posting in one of the other more private threads like theory and implementation or share your busting.. please excuse any typos as im limited to responding on my phone with very fat thumbs

Hi Jimmy, Sorry your in the thick of a banger session.. As for stopping the verap prior to attempting a bust depends on the dosage but i dont think it's 2 late to try. As for the D3 reg attempt with the D and fish oil only, I dont think thats gonna cut it. You really need to be on the full reg (all co factors). Is there a reason you can't take all the suggested vitamins? O2 is super important so I'm glad your getting that squared away!

@FunTimes Spiny has been locked out for a spell....but I just got an email from her saying she got in this morning and browsing the board so I'm sure we'll see her posting soon!

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy ..... So sorry to see you back. Why naratriptan? It's a migraine medicine, and I think it's a pill (not an injection or a nasal spray). It is unlikely to help you. But as it's a triptan, you can't expect to bust successfully while taking it. (I'm a little confused about what you're saying. Maxalt is not naratriptan; it's rizatriptan. It also blocks busting.) Please read about O2 here: https://clusterbusters.org/forums/topic/6213-basic-non-busting-information/ And note this: To avoid frustration, it might be wise for you to contact your O2 supplier before their first delivery to make sure you are getting the right equipment. Many of them are not used to providing for people with CH. You want cylinders (tanks), not a concentrator. At the least, you want one large tank (an M tank or H tank) and one smaller tank for portability (an E tank). Multiple versions of each tank are better. You need some kind of stand, at least for your larger tank(s). You want regulators that go up to at least 15 liters per minute (lpm), and preferably up to 25 lpm. (I say "regulators," plural, because the large tanks and the smaller tanks take different types of regulators.) And you want a NON-REBREATHER mask. These are all things they should know to give you to treat CH, but often don’t. When the stuff is delivered, have the delivery person set it up for you and be sure it's working.