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What David said. Since the O2 didn't work on those K7's I wonder if he'll want to try Batch's PH optimization recipe (I can dig it up if you don't have it), which is purported to allow the O2 to be more effective? Or maybe an energy drink along with the O2 for the same reason? (sorry if we've covered that and I've forgotten). As far as sleep is concerned, how about the Melatonin? I just saw for the first time over on CH.com that people are going as high as 18 mg for the nightly dose, with one responder saying melatonin never did anything for him until he got to 15 mg, then it started preventing the night time hits. I'm not sure whether melatonin is supposed to conflict with mushrooms at all - I know that my little 3 mg nightly melatonin dose didn't prevent 1.5 G of mushrooms from coming on strong and knocking me for a good loop.Â

Well very glad to hear that Xeno has the credibility and is serious, because this sounds like it could be a godsend for some CH'ers.

Sounds probable to me too.

When living in San Diego without health insurance I used to pop over the border in Tijuana to get much cheaper imitrex injections without prescription (Imigran, it's the same exact thing). Anyway, the treatment center you describe sounds WAY better than that!! I didn't realize mushrooms are legal there - are they commercially available for purchase? Not that anyone would want to try to cross back over the border to the US with them in their possession - but I suppose a crazy plan for the very desperate could be to ingest some right before crossing back over the border, and have a designated driver take you home? Back to your concept - it sounds kind of like cluster heaven - low cost, a beautiful mansion, mushrooms, O2, all the CH drugs. There will naturally be some skepticism, as in "is this too good to be true?" from some of us, but I'm sure there will be interest, and I for one hope it isn't too good to be true. Would love to hear more background on you and the treatment center concept.

I've been reading an interesting topic over at CH.com, and it made me wonder if the current stubbornness of some the worst chronic cases people are reporting here [bonkers, Angel's Hubby] could have something to do with the time of year and how it affects the hypothalamus (of chronics too!) Here are some of the details as supplied by the very credible source of Linda Howell (long time chronic, and moderator at CH.com): Re: Interesting thing said to me today Reply #2 - Yesterday at 6:15pm  it's been long thought that the change of seasons, especially Spring and Fall are the times when folks go into cycle or for those who are chronic...High cycle. Circadiem rhythm and all that. I know that Family services gets a LOT more calls for help in the Spring and Fall and then slacks off over the winter and Summer. The Hypothalmus is said to react to the seasons, so it;'s not so weird at all. days getting shorter or days getting longer tend to throw it into high gear. Oh yeah..we do! Every other chronic I've talked to says they get it too.

3 K10s at night since - oh man that's horrible. > Personally, I doubt that 30 RC seeds alone would have much effect for him at this stage, but I'll be interested to see if anyone on here thinks different. I'm going by my own experience with mild acting RC, and thinking of the report from severe chronic Bonkers who found that (if I remember correctly) RC did nothing.

Hey Fast Eddie, I hope you'll share details of your success story here - like maybe on the "Share Your Busting Stories" forum. That's something that can reach and help a lot of other CH'ers.

Very VERY sorry to hear about those K10's Angel. > Clustermom - strange and interesting that higher doses have provided lesser results so far. Seems counterintuitive, but if this is found to be generally true for CH'ers, I suppose it would be kind of a good thing that people wouldn't have to feel that best results require heavy tripping....

Well that elevates Dr. Halpern to sainthood in my book. I suppose there are probably some indigenous tribes still left in the Americas that haven't had this medicine (and their culture) taken from them....yet..... and at least they're covered for CH for now.....?

Yes I would think a CH would be triggered within a few hours at the most, so I'm guessing your hubby is at least lucky about the beer thing and that it is not a trigger for him at this time. 8-) I had a couple beers once during an episode and it near blew my head off. - an old timer regarding conventional CH meds, still a bit n00b with the busting

Does that mean Denny looks like Popeye? ;D

It sure does - hey have y'all considered forming a biker gang? ;D There's not a person there who wouldn't look impressive in a leather jacket rolling down the road on a chopper. 8-) Great to see a pic and looking forward to some more!Â

Oh man, sorry to hear about that most unwelcome trio of K10s. > I'm guessing yes on the shrooms'n seeds combo, and no on the shroom aborts, but this should be addressed with more authority by some of the more knowledgeable folks here, so I'm bumpin' this back to the top.

Yeah we know what "not having a very good day" means for Michael, so that part blows mightily. > Here's hoping he gets past that QUICK, and count me in as lookin' forward to those pics.

Happy BEE day! [smiley=birthdays.gif] [smiley=birthdays.gif]

LOL listening to that JP Colorado Kool-Aid - Oh man I've never heard that before in my sheltered existence. ;D Hey wasn't smuggling Coors across state lines what Smokey and the Bandit was about? So was that based on the true story of your dad Johnny? ;D

Shaggy - Native American flute music - why didn't I thinka that??!! :-? Got any particular collection of those flute tootings you'd recommend?

Wow. Hearing about that is going to brighten a lot of people's days today - I know it has mine. I even have to wear shades. 8-) This sounds like it has been a radical transformation since that recent pure hell the hubster was going through during detox!!Â

Make that at least 25 LPM with a big reservoir bag for me when I'm in peak cycle.

AWESOME indeed! Time to celebrate! Beers Red Bulls for everyone! ;D

I think you've really come to the right place William - she doesn't like to go to doctors or care for the drugs they offer, and there's certainly a real focus here on the non drug approaches. If you mention to her that the mushrooms and seeds have been used by indigenous peoples for centuries (or thousands of years?), are 100% natural, and are considered non toxic, maybe that will get her attention? You might add that we've seen severe chronic cases obtain some real relief with mushrooms. So summarizing your approach like this seems like a reasonable way to focus and simplify it to me: 1) Start right away with O2 for an abortive. 2) Try seeds for a preventative. 3) If the seeds aren't effective, graduate to the mushrooms

Almost no headaches yesterday?? That is FANTASTIQUE!!! Substituting Red Bull for beer sounds like an excellent idea to me, and if he drinks very many of them, boy he could become a real fast talkin' chatty Cathy at the party! ;D

Why yes, he is isn't he? Hopefully info gained here will both help you both get off the drugs and get better control over the CH, then the a$$hole boss can go &^*%$ himself.Â

Sorry if we've been over and over this before ad nauseam, but is he guzzling an energy drink at the onset along with the O2? It is reputed to boost the O2's effectiveness.

Sounds encouraging Angel! We'll be following this intently, with fingers crossed and/ or prayers, depending on superstition/religious preferences.