Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Can I bust while taking pain killers such as Percocet and Vicoden which have Codeine? If now how long do I have to be off of them? Can I take them the day after busting if my head is killing me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Why are you taking narcotics? Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I take about 3 pills a week for the migraines I get. Doesn't do anything for my cluster headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You're gonna have to clean up before busting. Â Â Â Â Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 How many days? I am not addicted and I can go a week without taking any. My pain is just bad today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Don't matter if you're addicted you got to be clean for five days minimum. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 ok that's what I'm looking for. 5 days..... 5 long days of pain! Eeeek I don't know what I am going to do. This Oxygen is not working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 How are you using the O2? Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 25 on regulator and the rebreather bag. I use the thing u suck on with bag and not the mask though. I usually do about 5-10 minutes at a time. I am trying to do energy drinks but yuck they taste nasty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Crank up the flow rate and stay on it. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiny Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You can use coffee instead of energy drinks. Drink at the first sign of CH. With your O2, exhale completely and inhale deeply. Out with the bad and in with the good and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I am wondering if caffeine is a trigger for me. Coffee doesn't seem to help at all so I thought maybe energy drinks would because of the Taurine. It seems like soda makes my head worse but no difference with coffee. What is a normal amount of time on the oxygen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Till ya kill it. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On this video -- -- starting at about 5:30, there's a potentially valuable suggestion about using the breathing tube with 25 lpm, and some suggestions for breathing strategies. A well-known CH expert also suggests looking toward your feet while you do the O2 (and some people say that helps). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 It always seems like I kill it and then 2 or 3 minutes later here comes the pain again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Kill it and then stay on it for around ten minutes or so. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Any luck with Skullcap and Licorice Tincture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Tony Only just reported that he's had success aborting with licorice root. https://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1385746613/7#7 As he says, you gotta be kinda careful: https://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1322547210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I am trying to do energy drinks but yuck they taste nasty!! A relative of mine is strictly a migraineur, no CH - anyway, she routinely aborts oncoming migraines with the little energy SHOTS, such as the 5 hour ones. Just one quick gulp, then feel free to immediately chase it with any bit of pleasant tasting food or drink that will knock out the after taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinak Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Do the energy shots have Taurine in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Only Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 For oxygen, try the mask. If I used mouthpiece I got 10% relief on whatever the flow rate. Using mask 100% relief. For me it was getting high-flow O2 to my pain side nostril. I have been told here and everywhere it does not work that way but for me it did and does. Currently aborting with Liquorice Root only like mentioned and have O2 ready. You need to clean up to use Liquorice Root as well. Lately I have been a bit worried because someone who knows a lot mentioned LR is nature's cortisone and thinking it might affect busting. Don't know how I would've made it through last week without it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Do the energy shots have Taurine in them? most of the common ones do. 5-hour energy, yes. 6-hour power -- looks to me like some varieties do, some don't. check the labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trytosurvive Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Suggestion, get rid of the pain killers. It's proven that they actually cause headaches. 1st thing my nuro asked me is if I was taking pain meds. I can't find the link but there is a ton of research now linking pain meds to Migraine and headache issues. Besides they don't work for CH anyway. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19622016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleyoop Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Suggestion, get rid of the pain killers. It's proven that they actually cause headaches. 1st thing my nuro asked me is if I was taking pain meds. I can't find the link but there is a ton of research now linking pain meds to Migraine and headache issues. Besides they don't work for CH anyway. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19622016 Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Party Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 @Potter: Why do you suggest quitting opiates before busting? I don't know much about CH but I do know a fair bit about tryptamines and I can't imagine that Percocet (which acts on kappa and mu-opioid receptors) would inhibit 5-HT receptor agonism. The two neurological systems are entirely separate. I'm not challenging the established knowledge, more open to learning something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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