FRUSTRATED123 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Hello all, I am an oxygen user and have been for years, but my attacks do not seem to abort as fast as others. I have noticed in some other peoples messages that they are breathing the oxygen predominantly through their mouths and not their noses. i know that I am breathing mostly through my nose. What is the correct way to breath the oxygen for the quickest abort. breathing through the mouth or nose? I appreciate any help that anyone can give me as I am peaking right now and am having up to 10 attacks a day. I am waiting to see my dr. to discuss detoxing from my meds so I can bust, but until that time, oxygen is my only source of pain abortion. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Hi I use a ondemand regulator with mouthpiece. I find mouthpiece much more effective than a mask. I breath in and out mouth. In my experience o2 use can be not effective at all, if not used the best way with the right equipment, or it can be very effective using right. Breath deep as you possibly can in and out then start huff as fast as you can, i "pause" down with some deep breaths in and out again , then start the race again. This can make serious difference as i experienced at least. Good luck to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 My daughter also gets better results with a "wand" or "tube" (I haven't been able to find the right official name for it)--like the one shown in the photo at the ch.com oxygen page (http://www.clusterheadaches.com/O2/index.html) next to the heading bubbler/moisturizer--than with a mask. But she's never tried the Optimask, which so many people swear by as a "game-changer." And I assume you're read here about "power users" with 25-45 lpm flows and big bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 With ondemand you don`t need bag. It will give you the amount o2 you are able to breath. I tried big bag with 25flow, can`t be compared with ondemand. It is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I use an OptiMask...in the nose and out the mouth. Works great for me. Never tried the mouth piece but the on demand sounds like the Cadillac. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 A demand valve does sound like it would be SWEET. 8-) As far as I know, whether you're breathing thru mouth or nose isn't going to make as much difference as whether you are hyperventilating or not. I know at peak cycle I really need to huff the stuff vigorously and rapidly in order to get an abort. I took a sort of survey/poll over at ch.com at one point regarding who was hyperventilating, what results they were getting, etc. - here's the link in case it's of any help: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1251783456/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 It really is, i thought it was good when i had 25lpm, as said, it can`t be compared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Fascinating, Bejeeber -- great job. Sure looks like the higher lpm has a big payoff in speed of knocking out the HAs. Too bad you had to go and ruin it all with your reference to "hotrodders" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Bejebeer, that was good!! Ondemand also has this filter disk, so you won`t get that dried out throat and mouth when using o2 allot over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Ben wondering, how much o2 do you people use aprox in one week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Only Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Ben wondering, how much o2 do you people use aprox in one week? Few weeks back I went bottle per day, that's 20L. Approx 7 bottles a week. This is interesting how different people use different methods. I have demand valve (it's integrated in the bottle) and it does not work for me though it's 100% oxygen (and cost effective since it only gives O2 when inhaling). For quick stop for my clusters it's my custom ER mask and 25l/min or more. And in my case it's all about the nose. My cluster is on the left side, so if oxygen is not flowing in my left nostril and even if it is but my nostril is clogged the pain won't go lower before I get my nostril open and ozygen flowing "right to the right spot". It's always been like this but I only realized this in the last years when I have had top use oxygen a LOT. Most people seem to have these, nostrils, nose and even those critical spots - look for them if you haven't found one (I'd bet they are somewhere near nerves). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hmmmm.... You seem to use what i use. I used mask before, didn`t do a thing. But i had too big mask. I`m very tiny, but they always forgot to give me childrens mask. Now i got one little mask that covers just nose and mouth, also it sits tight enough to my face. BUT guess what, never tried it. First thing after logging off, gonna hook it right up!! Thanks allot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Only Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Now i got one little mask that covers just nose and mouth, also it sits tight enough to my face. For me it's extremely important that the mask is 100% sealed; I have taped all the tiniest holes in it etc. Maybe even more important is how one breathes. Deep, long inhaling at the very moment on the 1st signs of an attack - staying calm and not "panicking". It took me over a decade to learn to breath "right" All the best for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 This mask i got has an "cushioned air ring", it sits abs tight. Found this ineffective, as i couldn`t get air trough my nose at all almost. But i will try more!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRUSTRATED123 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thank you all for your tips and advise. I am so very blessed to have found all of you. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Only Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 This mask i got has an "cushioned air ring", it sits abs tight. Found this ineffective, as i couldn`t get air trough my nose at all almost. But i will try more!! I have the same kind. There might be test button behind the air bag which you can press and get the air flowing even when not inhaling. This one is still not working for me, max flow you can get with it is 10L/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Ok, didn`t find anything like that. Biggest problem is that my nose is stuffed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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