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Thanks CHfather, I have updated the poll to ask the question and record if the person is a sufferer or not and if so, what form. I take it you added your email and received the analysis run through the prompt - it's just sending your results via an automation to a model with a prompt to analyse them - the prompt deals with a tie in scores based on prioritizing CH traits and if a tie stills exists, rank in alphabetical order - I have made that now clear in the email summary. Thanks for sharing these studies! Raises more questions than answers. Significant that the observed craniometric abnormalities were independent of smoke and alcohol intake which contrasts previous hypotheses that lifestyle factors might explain facial features like the "leonine face" that Graham and Kudrow wrote about. We also have a new paper published a few days back - Smoking in primary headaches – a systematic review and meta-analysis looking at smoking in primary headaches and found a weighted-pooled prevalence of smoking in CH patients of 65% being the highest prevalence among primary headache types evaluated, compared to 20% for migraine and 19% for TTH. Despite this they concluded that current smoking was not associated with CH diagnosis when compared to controls and suggest this lack of association might be due to the limited number of studies included for CH in their meta-analysis but also state that while smoking is commonly associated with CH, it may result from other as yet unidentified factors which aligns with the 2021 craniometry study's finding that the observed bone abnormalities are independent of smoking and alcohol consumption. On the losing beloved family pets, oh man it's tough. I'm sorry. We lost Harper our female border collie at 9 maybe 2 years back, Ollie held tough, my loyal mate, for another couple of years and he enjoyed great health over his 15 years with me. The sharpness of the pain has subsided but boy do I miss him, I find myself telling "Gurl" that Ollie would have adored her, he got so excited around cats. Cats are so different, try and approach them they run away, ignore them and they come to you. Alas its my Sunday and I have one very important task to do today, and that is book flights to Dallas for September. We are very excited but trying to figure out how much time to spend exploring Dallas and maybe Austin before going upto Seattle. It's a long old flight to not make the most of it - 24 hours, ungh.

This could be the photo in the dictionary next to "leonine"!!

At the time I was reading about this I looked like my avatar picture. So it was like “whaaaaat?” And my zodiac sign is lion. And I am 1.86cm in height. That is probably 6feet in American?

Indeed. I only put up my cat avatar because there was some joking I wasn't getting enough likes, and cats were a theme among the more-highly-liked posters. Never had a cat; never wanted one. But then again, it's very relevant here to note that I don't have CH (my daughter does). So you might want to take my scores (responder #3) off the spreadsheet. In 1969, a fellow wrote about CH patients' "leonine" appearance," and in 1974, the great Dr. Kudrow "confirmed" that observation. PHYSICAL AND PERSONALITY CHARACTERISTICS IN CLUSTER HEADACHE, Headache: The Journal of Head and Face Pain | 10.1111/j.1526-4610.1974.hed1304197.x | DeepDyve Kudrow also said there that his male CH patients were on average almost six feet tall, which was about three inches taller than the average American male. Questionable as all that might be, there is this spooky-seeming thing from 2021: "Frontal Bone Height and Facial Width were able to discriminate, one independently from the other, CH patients from Healthy Controls with an overall accuracy of 77.00%." (PDF) Can Craniometry Play a Role in Cluster Headache Diagnosis? A Pilot Exploratory TC-3D Based Study Well, I took the Salamanca test. As you say, it seems to leave a lot to be desired. For one thing, the questions/items on the survey do not seem to be well correlated with the actual traits they are supposed to be measuring. I'm guessing that there are two questions per category (there are 11 categories), and you get one point for "sometimes," two for "frequently," and three for "always." (The actual line between "sometimes" and "frequently" seems much blurrier to me than the line between "frequently" and "always.") My top three traits were schizoid, anancastic, and paranoid, all of which are in the CH top six. I also got the same score for "anxious" (also in their CH top six) as I did for anancastic, but somehow they decided that anancastic was in my top three but anxious wasn't. I have to say that by the "normal" definitions of these terms, I am not an anxious or paranoid person. So my four top answers were all in the six most common ones for people who actually have CH. No idea what that might mean about the validity of the findings/instrument.

Hadn't seen this either til now. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED - thank you for bringing it to attention @Dallas Denny!

Thanks for the warning! I tried but had some leakage