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when I finally stopped taking verap i dropped it off from 120 to 0. I did and still do have oxygen, 5hr drinks and a few other tricks I use to abort when needed. I do not get any more or less clusters but I did get rid of most of the side effects. I was up around 1020 a day and that sucked. If I were to go back in time I would not have started taking it at all.

I'm really interested in this approach and your findings. Please keep updating us like you're doing. Every bit of knowledge helps!

Anyone tried some of the peptides that's becoming popular now? I started KLOW yesterday, which is a blend of peptides that targets multiple pathways involved in healing, inflammation control, and cellular repair. I've only taken one dose, but this mornings attack did seem dampened roughly 50% compared to prior days. I also feel a lot better after the attack, my day is usually ruined by lingering pain, but now its very manageable. Remains to see if this is one of those things that works great for a short time to never work again later, or if it gives some longer lasting effect. Will report back.

Thanks! I've increased the dosage of KLOW slightly to what I'm seeing others doing so I'm now getting per day: 2.5mg GHK-CU 500mcg BPC 157 500mcg TB-500 500mcg KPV Forgot to update yesterday but it was CH free, and that was just 3 days after lowering Verapamil. I did not lower it yesterday just to see if it was a fluke but there was again no CH this morning, so I will lower it today. I've had this other type of pain in the trigeminal area (temple, cheek, above/behind the eye, sometimes back to the neck) in between CH for years. Same side as the CH, completely unilateral. It used to come in months long episodes (3-4) and then it was gone for a couple of months until returning again. Last 2 years its been constant, sometimes I get 20-30 minutes at waking up until it starts. It's like the whole left side of my head/brain is inflamed, and there is a burning sensation and some pain in the trigeminal area constantly. With that I get intermittent stabbing pain, so its like a sawtooth pattern where I'm constantly on 3-4 in pain and then there is second long stabs that brings pain up to 7-8. When its really bad the stabs can come like every 10 seconds and go on for hours. Sleep sort of "resets" everything, but then the pain comes crawling back fairly quickly. I have tried Indomethacin against this with some success, some of the stabbing stopped but after I had another bout of CH it feels like its almost back to where it was before I started taking it. Felt a lot of improvement from KLOW on this pain in the first couple of days but effect seem to be wearing off. Gabapentin has also worked for this sort of pain, but only for 3-5 days before I've needed to increase dosage, until side effects become intolerable. I'm convinced its neurological, my neurologist first claimed it was muscular but I've been to literally hundreds of chiropractors and other sort of mechanical practitioners (neck, shoulders, jaw, teeth etc etc) without result. I think I've tried all of the medications you could think of except Pregabalin. I've also tried hundreds of supplements and things like progesterone, methylene blue, cyproheptadine, aspirin etc, and nothing seem to work.

No problem! Yes, I am not vouching for this either, I should have said this right away: There is zero research / safety profile for these peptides in humans, this is highly experimental. I did however wake up without CH this morning, but impossible to say if its the KLOW, it really shouldn't be after 2 injections. I'm on day 6 of lowering verapamil, so it could just be that I stabilized here on the new dosage. Will drop another tablet today and see what happens.

Thank you for this!!!! Not vouching for or saying anything against it. Looking forward to reports. This page seems like a pretty good discussion: KLOW — research profile · Peptide Research