didgens

alcohol is also not a trigger for my son either

does tied to a video game when not at school or working count ,, then yes .. that would be my son.. antsy

Unfortunately, although numerous studies confirm what people have known for millennia ( i.e.that weather and altitude significantly affect living things, including causing headaches in weather or altitude sensitive people), at present, there appears to be no single and definitive explanation universally accepted to explain the precise mechanism and biological response to account for Barometric Pressure Headaches. Various explanations have been suggested which include the possibility that changes or fluctuations in barometric pressure are associated with: •Alterations in oxygen levels that result in blood and cranial vessels trying to compensate by contracting (vasoconstriction) and/or dilating (vasodilation) in the head region. Pain is caused by swollen blood vessels pressing on nerve fibres in the brain as well as from swelling/inflammation of brain tissue from various chemicals released during this process. This was the most popular explanation of migraines from the medical profession prior to the development of modern resonance imaging techniques. These now indicate that migraines are not simply due to blood flow changes but are much more complex in nature involving various changes in the brain. •Vasodilation of blood vessels in head due to barometric receptors in the brain being activated. •Atmospheric electrically charged/ionization of air particles that trigger headaches. Positive ionization has been linked to the release of excessive serotonin into the bloodstream. •Triggers involving changes in electrical activity within the brain. •Triggers involving pressure induced chemical changes occurring in the body. •Producing small pressure variations in the fluid of the brain that trigger brainstem migraine receptors. •Changes in neurotransmitters of the brain. •Differences in pressure concerning blood vessels, numerous tubes, cavities and sealed chambers filled with fluid or air in the inner ear, brain and head region. In particular, pain resulting from pressure differences between air trapped in the sinuses and the air outside (especially when barometric pressure decreases) which becomes exacerbated when the openings leading into the nasal cavities are blocked, is well documented. Studies have shown many other factors may possibly trigger headaches and migraines through influencing brain patterns, nerves and body chemistry. Understanding the exact degree of association between the weather/barometric pressure and these factors is still to be determined: •Environmental electromagnetism. •Changes in the earth’s electromagnetic field during solar storms. •Air-borne particulate matter and pollutants especially in cities.

heres another interesting article http://www.barometricpressureheadache.com/barometric-pressure-headache-causes/

NOW I feel like im getting somewhere ,,, heres a combo ,,, and it seems to fit .. pressure change ,,time of year ,, my sons laying down Many scientists and researchers disagree on exactly why atmospheric pressure changes can instigate headaches. One theory is that the barometric receptors in the brain, which regulate blood pressure when one stands up quickly or changes position, might be affected by atmospheric pressure changes. A similar theory poses that a change in the atmospheric pressure causes small pressure changes in the fluid of the brain. heres the link to this article http://www.wisegeekhealth.com/what-is-a-barometric-pressure-headache.htm so MAYBE the psilo shuts up the barometric receptors in the brain. so that blood pressure doesn't change from sitting to lying down. As I have gotten older I started getting boughts of something called "ortho-static hypo tension" ,, I would get a HUGE head rush and dizzy upon standing ,, it didn't happen every time .. and it would come and go. It was directly tied to my hormones. hmmmmm

so is this natures way of telling CH'rs its time to migrate south for the winter ? Why Weather Triggers Headaches and Migraines Headache specialists are still unraveling the mysteries of migraines and other headaches. Most believe a combination of factors is at play. Those factors range from genetics to neurovascular imbalances in the brain. But what role could weather play? One leading evolutionary theory is that getting a headache is a protective mechanism against adverse environmental stressors. The theory goes that headache pain would cause someone to seek a safer, more hospitable environment. The fact that changes in weather and extremes in heat and cold cause headache, some experts believe, gives credence to this theory. These experts also believe that people who get frequent headaches have a greater sensitivity to changes in the environment. They also have a lower threshold to the pain response. The reason for these things, the experts say, may be that people with migraines have likely inherited this sensitivity. The survey cited earlier also found that two out of three headache sufferers had not discussed environmental triggers with their doctors. Nearly half of them, though, had been plagued by headaches for more than 20 years.

Darwin would agree

DD thank you so much ,,, I have been avoiding giving these to my son .. just a gut feeling is all. thank you for the feedback !!

If you started episodic ,, then went chronic .. I have a question. were you living in the same house/apt/neighborhood when it changed ? or had you moved ? if you had moved ,, was it a long distance away ?

thanks spiny ,,, My son is helpful sometimes .. trying to get information out of a 21 year old is difficult at best. He says "Mom ,, its just more of an inconvienience" ,, but it may become MORE than that some day. I don't tell him that, I don't want to freak him out,, but its so bizarre that he gets say <25 of them a year .. and others that many in a week or 2 ? whats different, why would it change. why would someone have them a few times a year when they are younger ,, then become chronic ?? oH.. ok ,, that's going to make me post another question .. lol .. thanks spiny

Jeebs .. you cracked me up there ,, maybe a dog .. lol Awsome to read thanks so much !!

yes

Fab would you mind capsulating your process in a checklist for others to follow please ?? it would be of great help !! thanks

good article . .thanks

thanks for the info Diamond... will add to the list of What the Heck.

CHFather .. you always make me smile .. didgigence is priceless .. if I could fit it on a license plate I would !! Complicated indeed .. makes one feel as if they are chasing their furry little tail. Good point about the nito. so if nitro can trigger sublingual as do injected histmines then im stumped. Along with the "gets them laying down" factor. And why can he basically "stop" one if he feels it coming by standing up. all such crazy seemingly unrelated symptoms. I feel like when the cause if finally found its going to be an AH HA moment somewhere down the line. so its like a logic problem all CH's have one sided pain, not all CH's are triggered by the same thing etc. I think I need to draw some logic circles .. but none of them will be connected. it just seems so random. more reading next week .. for now HAPPY HALLOWEEN !!

Ok I have spent the last 30 minutes trying to find my original post about the Nitro here or on Ch.com; I don't seem to be able to find it.  Maybe I miss-read the method of treatment vs. the cure.. but vaso-constrictors can be inhaled (cocaine being one of them). so I'm not willing to leave the sinus/ear/throat cavities alone just yet because of the other symptoms my son experiances along with the CH phase. I don't believe in coincidence here. so Why does he almost exclusively get his CH's when he lies down .. I don't know if I can count more than 1 Ch he's had standing or sitting ?

nope .. not gone ,, one this morning ,, he got out of bed ,,, realized he was early for class ,, and decided to go back to sleep and take a nap ,, BOOM ,,

things inhaled into the sinus do go into the blood stream.

hmmmmm,,, more reading in order .. ok .. I don't know why I saw water .. I must need new reading glasses

the exercising in hot water has me intrigued .. ?? huh ??

in an article I cited in a previous post the nitro used in the study was inhaled (there is an aerosol version of nitro not just the sublingual) see below,, I too have found the reference to "histamine headaches" that is why my curiosity regarding time of year ,, what's in the air ,, acid reflux etc. I am trying to see what triggers the histamine response ie. swelling aggravation of the ganglion. Normal histamine medications however don't seem to block the "type" of histamine that plays a major role in the CH however. My son has tried almost all of them. Some get a bit of relief from Benedryl my son being one,, he says its the only thing that helps with his "Non-CH" symptoms ,, I also belive it helps with the CH as well .. there doesn't seem to be any other antihistamine I have found that any CH sufferer gets any kind of relief from as of yet. There are some posts on the other site where folks state that Benedryl does in fact help them. This also had me curious as one of the ingredients in Benedryl is also a sleep aid.. you can search my posts here or on the other site where I talk about Benedryl. Prevention of cluster headaches As experts are not yet sure what the causes of cluster headaches are, it is not possible to recommend proven measures for prevention. A comprehensive preventive strategy (as mentioned above) is vital for managing the cluster headaches - simply using acute therapies is not enough. The following may help reduce the risk of future attacks: Alcohol - during a period when headaches occur alcohol may trigger attacks. Abstaining from alcohol during these periods will help reduce the number of headaches. Alcohol does not appear to be a trigger during periods of remission. Inhaled nitroglycerin - this medication causes blood vessels to dilate (enlarge) and can cause headache cluster attacks. The NHS (National Health Service), UK, recommends that cluster headache sufferers avoid this medication. Exercising in hot weather - this is a well known trigger for cluster headache. Sufferers should avoid doing anything which may cause their body's temperature to rise rapidly. Smoking - a significantly higher percentage of cluster headache sufferers are smokers, compared to the rest of the population. Although not proven, some suggest that giving up smoking may help.

halyards .. that's the dang word I was looking for .. sheesh

but no cessation of headaches ?? no break at all ?

im starting to feel like the cat lady on the simpsons .. So ,, I would like to ask you all here ,, If you catch a cold and your sinus' get plugged up and you can only breathe through your mouth .. have you noticed any affect on your cluster headaches ? a kooky one I know