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I think my curiosity about all this is im still skeptical that the sphenopalatine is always the culprit. As one person stated here they had the block but it did not alieve the pain in some areas. there are several ganglion (nerve bundles) in that area, I think using these types of block to identifiy the ganglions that are involved could be a useful diagnostic tool ,, not a solution ,,

waiting to go to lunch ... zzzzzzz (clearly I am overpaid) http://www.fauquierent.net/contactheadache.htm

ok .. you know me .. sinking my teeth in .. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1526-4610.2010.01661.x/abstract

heres more http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-first-of-a-kind-surgery-severe-headaches.html

I do not suffer CH's (mom of CHer) can you tell me please if this picture shows where the eye pain exists ?? http://path.medrounds.org/2006/03/where-is-ciliary-ganglion.html

from the video (which isn't exact by any means) im wondering and have been now for a couple weeks from reading and reading and reading if this device isn't stimulating the CIliary Ganglion instead of the Sphenopaletine or Peterygopalatine ganglion... in my reading its the Ciliary Ganglion that caused the lacrimimal glands to secrete tears and the nose to run in the CH's (classic symptoms).. this might be why the Sphenopaletine ganglion blocks don't have compelte or desired affects that the numbing agents applied need to be directed at the Ciliary Ganglion... Thoughts ???? (way to much free time on my hands)

ok so where's his update ??!

The muscle tension in sholder happens exactly to my son as well. ALso when he was younger I noticed a deformity in the growth of his scapula on that side. I took him to a doc and he said its ok ,, different growth rate ,, my son also has a deformity of the surrounding boney structure in his ear canal on the CH side. ?????

actually Marcaine or Bupivacaine is indicated for local infiltration, peripheral nerve block, sympathetic nerve block, and epidural and caudal blocks. It is sometimes used in combination with epinephrine to prevent systemic absorption and extend the duration of action. The 0.75% (most concentrated) formulation is used in retrobulbar block.[2] It is the most commonly used local anesthetic in epidural anesthesia during labor, as well as in post-operative pain management.[3] its a caine ,, not derivative of codine. its in the same family as cocaine, lidocaine, novacaine etc.

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also found this post Re: Acid Reflux and Shrooms? [Re: RussianScholar] #9872915 - 02/26/09 08:25 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) Edit post Reply to this post Reply to this post Quick Reply It cures mine for up to a month as long as I smoke daily too to keep my nusea down.

no not life threating ,, my husband has had them all his life .. they last for less than a minute or 2 and then are gone. and yes they seem to come in groups. ie. he will have 1 a day or every couple days for a couple weeks then not get them for months. Since they are so short lived for him he just sits and waits for them to go.

I didn't see the term cluster migraines in the article ? did I miss something. Has anyone here tried any "Q-Tip" up the nose numbers of any kind ? just curious.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2639972/

I see SUNCT syndrome is here as well. My husband suffers from this so I believe a genetic connection exists there.

it would be nice to know if any of the other headache types sited in this article have a positive or negative response to oxygen ? (maybe they all do and that's a useless stat) ,, just curious though.

clearly I am BORED at work .. doing nothing but read about nerves in the head today ,,, yesterday was cancer research .. oh well http://www.healthcentral.com/migraine/c/9924/157786/sphenopalatine/

well now .. isn't this just interesting .. maybe why something works for some .. but not for others .. Chapter 12 – Nasociliary Nerve Block Indications and Clinical Considerations Nasociliary nerve block is useful in the diagnosis and treatment of Charlin syndrome, which is also known as nasociliary neuralgia.Although as with most headache syndromes the exact cause of the pain of Charlin syndrome is unknown, the pathogenesis of this uncommon source of head and face pain is thought to be dysfunction of the nasociliary ganglion in a manner analogous to the dysfunction of the sphenopalatine ganglion that is thought to be the source of cluster headache. The presenting symptom of patients with Charlin syndrome is severe paroxysms of ocular or retro-orbital pain that radiates into the ipsilateral forehead, nose, and maxillary region. This pain is associated with voluminous ipsilateral rhinorrhea and congestion of the nasal mucosa as well as significant inflammation of the affected eye. The pain of Charlin syndrome has a rapid onset to peak, with attacks lasting 45 to 60 minutes. In some patients …

anyone here who suffers CH's have ear infections as a child ? my son did as well.

ok 2 days of Mylanta twice or 3 times a day and definitely before he lays down to sleep and no headaches no stomach issues ???? WTF ???

I would be interested in the clinic name/address/state where you went just in case ?

Yes ,, my son as well. we used to give him the silicon drops thinking it was gas pains. every night from 7 to 9 like clock work. does she have tremors as well ? shaking hands. both my son and my husband have this.

Does anyone here remember their parents saying they had Cholic as a baby ?

my son has has persistant headaches for the last week now .. not CH's but a headache that is almost always there ? I don't know what you all call this ? but there is definitely other symptoms .. bad stomach most days. Also he told me that a cluster headache was coming on Saturday night but he stood up and it went away ??? has anyone ever experienced this ?? standing up and having your cluster not start ?? this really makes me think of acid reflux. also the whole 1 - 1.5 hours after falling asleep ,, acid reflux. I have a very good friend who's husband has migranes and she was telling me over the weekend that always he has stomach problems with it. again cause and effect ?? the vagus nerve touchs everything ,, stomach, head, heart intestines ..