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First let me say I think it's awesome that we're continuing to search for something that works 'better' than the last thing we tried. Eventually finding something that can get us to a 100% painfree state is the goal! While I think the test was absolutely awesome, (and something we need more of IMHO). I won't be taking this anytime soon. Reason below: Years ago when I learned of shrooms, LSD and LSA from this website I went out to the internet and read, read, read. I found that the most informative information was on the recreational drug boards. The people on those boards do some really stupid stuff, but at the same time, they provide some really good insight into, - What, why, how much, when, what happens, how long etc. I've read over about a dozen trip reports of people using 20+mg of 5MeO-DALT and the majority of the tip reports are bad experiences. Some are down right scary just to read. I draw my conclusion of not trying this based on 1) High likelihood of a bad experience (bad trip). 2) The very high frequency of dosage required to keep the CH away (thereby increased chance of a bad trip, based on increased need to dose). That said, I still think LT2 has done an AWESOME thing here. The tests were well documented and well structured. Thereby providing some VERY good insight into something else to get us closer and closer to our hopeful future pain free time, and free from needing to take anything We need more studies like this to help us zero in on what works best for most! J

You F'ing ROCK... !!!! Great to hear of your continued success busting your CH! Are you coming to the buster conference in Nashtown in Sept? J

Sergical, Oh and ++ Jeebs post. I concur as well, no PTSD at all after MM here. J

Sergical, I remember you! Awesome news of all the pain free time!!! Thanks for keeping us posted on how you're doing! A simple note like this from one of the many, many people that are now pain free because of seeds or MM, could prevent someone from making a serious mistake with one of the surgeries being talked about from time to time. LOTS more hope here, than getting your face or brain cut on... IMHO. J

CHF, Sorry to hear J

overit, It's excellent they date stamp them!!! Nothing guarantees they're not good based on the date. Actually being harvested in March, means they're most likely fairly fresh. (relatively speaking to other companies that might keep them on the shelf for 12 months before selling them) I'd give-em a try. J

retrovertigo, I've noticed in the past that many of my cycles either were preceded with a mild sore throat / cold, or right after a cycle. I'd dose as soon as possible if you're feeling anything out of the ordinary IMHO. J

Thought some of you would like this. Great presentation on the history of Magic Mushies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qUhTN9A-Ro J

Melody, My rambling thoughts on your post: Sounds like your dose amount is about right (but some people's bodies require a higher dose). Are you hitting a 'threshold' dose? Feeling anything, trip etc.? I'd back your dose down to every 5 days instead of 7. It's been noted there's a bit of a sweet spot for most people right at 5 days. Have you tried bumping the dose to 2g? if you get 'pretty good' relief with 1.5, then 2 might get you over the threshold to more pain free time. As far as preparation: I think the majority that have tried using dried with caplets, report the least nausea, and easiest preparation. For long term storage you might want to use a desiccant (keeps the moisture out) in a container in the freezer. J

A few years ago I was in India and needed a script from the US. My doc in the US wrote it and someone picked it up and fedex'd it over to me in India. I'd guess someone in Italy could get a script for themselves, and send it to 'themselves' in the US? If someone was able to do that. Maybe a person in the US could hold it for them in preparation of a future trip to the US. It's a stretch, I know. J

retrovertigo, Sorry, paper is one of the few treatments I've not used. From the amount, experience and time between preventative doses, nothing comes immediately to mind that would be causing an issue. Good idea to have horded some, I would have done the same. Are you, or have you taken any prescription medications? I'm no expert on blocking meds, but several others here are an encyclopedia of what might block the busting effectiveness. J

Stories like that make me sick. Pretty clear big pharma is only interested in their profits, and nothing else. The public gets so much misinformation the average joe will automatically side with the gov's view. News outlets pander to sensationalism instead of real news now. They're counter to actually providing the public with a neutral "news" position on anything that would allow the public to formulate their own opinion on topics and issues. Sad. J

retrovertigo, ++ previous comments. I'd bust and bust hard. In regards to your preventative busting: What substance have you been using? And how much? I've run into the ups and downs of preventative busting myself and maybe with some additional info, we can get you back to some painfree time. If it worked for two years, I'd suspect something changed. J

BeastBuster, Great to hear you're getting some painfree time! It's been noted that there are quite a few foods that can trigger CH attacks. I have a long list of foods I don't eat when in cycle, and think many others do as well. As long as I stay away from my list of trigger foods. I can easily cut my attacks in half or even less. On a humorous note, I think it's pretty funny they have a Cleanse program, called the Presidents Pack.. ROFL. Too bad it doesn't work on politicians.. J

didgens, I take one dose (about 1.5g +/-) every 2 months. You don't have to take additional doses with the 5 day between when you're preventative dosing. J

didgens, ++ CHFathers post on D3. D3 is created in the human body by photons from sunlight. So it stands to reason that if your son got more sunlight and/or was on the D3 regimen, he might do better. Obviously those of us closer to the equator also get more sun. J

didgens, Short story of how great LSA and Fungus is at stopping CH: When my CH started at 18 I had one cycle a year, it was very short and while painful I never had a K10 when I was younger. Over the years the cycles got more painful and longer. Eventually going to 2 cycles a year with regular K10's. Eventually those two cycles extended so long I was likely chronic at that point (only a few weeks between the end of one cycle and the start of the next). I started dosing with LSA a little over 4 years ago. After terminating a cycle, I started preventative dosing every 3 months. I tried extending my preventative doses longer than 3 months. My CH came back and I was unable to terminate it with LSA, so I changed to fungus. I took 3 doses 5 days apart and it completely killed my CH. I changed to preventative dosing every 2 months and stayed 100% painfree for about a year. For a second (and I add, last) time I tried extending my doses longer than 60 days with fungus. At the exact 90 day mark my CH came back with a vengeance (one of the worst CH times in my life). Due to some personal emotional issues going on at the same time as the CH, I was unable to properly dose for several months. When I was able to dose, I killed the CH with several doses approx 5 days apart. I went back to my preventative dose schedule every 2 months with fungus and have been 100% completely pain free for the last year and a half. (never again will I miss my 60 day dose (+ or - 2 weeks), Never. I am an extreme proponent of preventative dosing. It's easy, you can plan the dose (even try to make it fun). Waiting for the CH to come back makes it harder to kill the CH, takes longer, and requires more 'medicine'. Not to mention IMHO, there's no reason to go through the CH pain of a cycle even starting if preventative dosing does such a great job of staying pain free. J

+++ Ricardo Many years ago I would have been happy to be a guinea pig for someone cutting and burning stuff on my face and brain. That was LONG before busting. Since using both fungus and seeds I'd never go under the knife. I personally see little reason for anyone to go under the knife, potentially causing serious permanent harm. When there are natural substances that are helping people get pain free daily From what I've seen on this board many (not all) of those that the fungus, seeds or LSD don't work, just need some coaching on how to improve their response (remove blocking meds, 5 days between doses etc.). It saddens me every time I read about permanent damage Dr meds, or surgeons have inflicted on people. From Prednisone destroying joints, to permanent eye damage, to heart damage, to not being able to move part of one's face, etc etc etc.... I've not yet to hear of a single bad side effect of the shrooms! To the contrary, there are so many other positive side effects many have reported. PFW, J

+++ CHFather Discussing the DR Sewell paper a pretty important item to note: 100% of those that used seeds in greater than .5mg of LSA had relief of their CH. 100% is pretty convincing to me  Problem though is there's no way to know how to get .5mg unless a person hits a threshold dose. I'd certainly prefer a sub hallucinogenic dose myself, but my experience mirrors the poster and don't get relief unless i hit a threshold dose. J

Overit, To the contrary, lots of other people have reported great success with RC. I think RC just has an enormous variability of LSA. J

Overit, My rule of thumb is to take enough to ensure I get a threshold (psychedelic) experience. Not deep, but just enough to know the chemicals were active. That said though, I personally never received RC that were active (always had no LSA). HBWR on the other hand I found quite the experience from time to time with very small doses (As small as 4 seeds). J

didgens, Definitely glad he's getting some pain free time. Wouldn't count on it having anything to do with wisdom teeth though. Mine were taken out when I was about 13. CH started at 18. Good to be prepared for the next cycle and be hopeful it never comes J

Just so it's out there. I looked at the posters profile. He created a profile and a few minutes later made this posting. He NEVER bothered to even read anything on the site. It's pretty clear to me that he's just an advertising campaign from this place in SA... Admin, I'd rarely make this request, but I'd plead the request to have this post removed as advertising spam that's being done incognito. J

brs82, It sounds like you've done your homework and ready to "do this thing". Detox is paramount to your success. Do you "Huff" the O2? At the first sign of the pending attack? Myself and others have found it's pretty useless if we start the O2 after the attack starts, but.... If I hit the O2 as soon as I feel the shadow I can abort 99% of my attacks within 10 to 15 minutes of their actual start, and with a significantly reduced pain level as well. Also try an energy drink. I find slamming half a monster (blue can, low carb) right as I'm about to start the O2 works wonders. Best Pain Free Wishes, J

Lazarus, I appreciate your comments if you're a real person, but honestly I for one am getting tired of reading about the TWO people with CH that have been treated at that clinic. There are much better treatments than cutting and burning muscle and nerves on someone's face, head and brain!. That clinic is trying to drum up business at real peoples expense... I don't mean to sound like a hypocrite, as I love hearing about people having pain free time, but it's VERY odd that the two people with CH that have success stories from that clinic are popping up in every forum all over the internet all of a sudden.... Looks like a sick-o's marketing from that clinic to me. If either of the two of you had been involved in the community BEFORE going to that clinic and getting REAL advice from those of us that are nearly pain free WITHOUT having someone cut on us... You'd be preaching a different tune... I don't mean to sound like a jerk, because I'm not... But please stop bringing this subject up. Your friend and someone from the clinic drops in here every few weeks and starts a new thread and it's really getting abusive of the people on this site, IMHO. We're here because we DON'T want people cutting on us!!! PERIOD.... J