Ricardo Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Ron recently noticed something really cool in our conversation with Dr. Sewell regarding Ketamine and cluster headaches. He cites a study that claimed they could not use Ritalin as a control because it has been known to abort cluster headaches. After I started looking I found this-- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15613186 It's an extremely small study, just one 43 year old sufferer, but supposedly 10 milligrams of ritalin aborted his cluster within 10 minutes. Here's the same study with a little more detail. http://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages/1771.html And here's an account written by a doctor who treated a 37 year old patient with Ritalin and had very good success... http://www.understandingpain.com/46.html I'm game. One more thing I'm going to ask my Neuro for at my next appointment.  Maybe I won't ask him for Ketamine, narcotics and ritalin all in the same visit though... [smiley=happy.gif] Thanks again Ron for paying attention to the details! Seems like a lot of times that's where the good stuff ends up hiding out... -Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I have used Ritalin and Metamina to abort CH attacks. It helped me great in shorter periods. But as i was very underweighted and i lost kg after kg using very small doses it wasn`t a good solution for longer periods. but for me it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Thanks, Ricardo. Kudos to you for digging up the info. And to you, Ting for the personal experience. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I found that in a journal from the Mayo clinic, it was sort of end of the line treatment. Or it said it should be end of the line treatment for rhose where nothing seemed to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump BeefKnob Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I take Ritalin and have not noticed any difference. Are you supposed to take it at the onset of the headache, or is just being on Ritalin supposed to stop the headache from ever occurring? I have never take it to abort one, but have had it in my system when I have been hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I took it at the onset. Metamina worked much better than Ritalin for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I think that both Ritalin and Metamina are amphetamines. Michael used to have a drug problem with cocaine. I think we'll try Ritalin ( a small Rx from Mike's doc) but I'm afraid of him liking it and abusing it if it happens to work. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Well i guess the risk of abuse is why it is end of the line treatment. For me i thought the side effect with weight loss was too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I started taking ritalin about 1 1/2 years ago for idiopathic hypersomnia. I take 10 mg 3 times a day. I take it a 7am noon, and 3pm. when I first started taking it I noticed that it would knock the shadows down fairly quick. After a few months it lost its effect on them. I have never tried to abort an attack with it. I have thought about it but decided to stick to my schedule, if it worked it I would be to easy to start abusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 no mather what, it won`t do what busting does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 James, please see the PM I just sent you. Much appreciated, Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffC Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 As someone that took a TON of adderal in college...and had severe episodic CH, I think adderal / and or Ritalin added to the severity of my cluster headache CYCLES. I never really had a CH while I was ON adderal or ritalin BUT as a person that at one point in time took that stuff every day in college, I noticed when I got off that crap my cycles are WAY WAY WAAAAAY less frequent and less severe. Just saying. Ritalin and adderal create a lot of tension and anxiety...both bad bad bad for CH sufferers. Not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackzxcasd4 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I found that in a journal from the Mayo clinic, it was sort of end of the line treatment. Or it said it should be end of the line treatment for rhose where nothing seemed to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboom Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Although I haven't tried Ritalin, I have used Adderal. No noticable change with my CH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defectiv Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I have tried all the major add/adhd drugs in my search for CH relief and i found that it does seem to help the pain perception but i don't know about overall reduction or prevention... and after it all i settled on 80mg adderall xr 40 b.i.d. i do have add so i suppose that may play into it all as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblesup Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 My two cents worth is I have ADD and was treated with concerta and Adderall. With both i never slept and was hit off the scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 You never slept? Metamina make me sleep, only thing almost that works as a sleeping aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblesup Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Right I could not sleep at all. The concerta and Adderall are forms of ritalin. Not familiar with Metamina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Metamina make me sleep Metamina seems to be Dextroamphetamine http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamina http://adhd-npf.com/metamina/ http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fadhd-npf.com%2Fmetamina%2F Dextroamphetamine is a psychostimulant drug which is known to produce increased wakefulness and focus as well as decreased fatigue and decreased appetite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexamphetamine Wow, I'm surprised you could sleep with that. Well I guess it's in accordance with a clusterhead twisted hypothalamus/circadian rhythms... myself, the RC seeds did not make me sleepy at all. Ritalin and Celesta seem to both Methylphenidate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate and Adderal is a mix of four amphetamine salts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderal amphetamines are stimulants, so normally no sleeping help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I know, but i often get the opposite effect from drugs. Have no clue why, just the way i am :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiny Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Ting, Back in the 70's benadryl was given as a test for 'hyperactivity'. This is before ADD and ADHD were on the radar for most of us. If you gave benadryl to a child who was Hyperactive, he would bounce off the walls for several hours. A child who the parents 'thought' was hyper, but was not, would go to sleep. Some parents were very disappointed that they had 'normal' kids who just needed better discipline. : This was supposedly due to the imbalances in the hyperactive childs' system. I knew 2 kids who were diagnosed this way when they were given benadryl for allergies. They then stayed up all night! They just reacted the opposite of the norm. Both were put on drugs that were amphetamines. Of course it caused a calming of the child, not a speed reaction of the general population. Funny how those things work. I don't know how they actually test or make sure a child has ADD or ADHD today. Wonder if they have a 'proof positive' test or just a visual inspection method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Well.... Benadryl wires me up... When i do Benadryl for allergic reactions when i do seeds, i cannot sleep. I thoguht it was the seeds, but when i did seeds the first times without Benadryl i slept trough it. But i do not need much sleep anyways, never did. That said, callin me hyper is what you could call an understatement actually. I have this neverending energy. But i kind of like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiny Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Ting, You would have passed the test for hyperactive! 8-) 8-) Anyway, that is why Ritalin and such calm and help focus a child who truly have ADD or ADHD. It is a reverse reaction due to their chemical/physical makeup. Now, you are grown and can enjoy that boundless energy! Crossfit??? Besides, it helps you keep up with your beautiful daughter. 8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 CrossFit it is!! 6 days a week ;D Thanks Spiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson312 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 ritalin adderall and mdma can all be abortives or triggers with my experience be careful in their use the rebounds mite be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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