bwunk Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Not sure if anyone has ever looked these guys up but they are doing clinical trials on Cluster headaches treatments with psilocybin. I have even invested some money in their stock since i really believe in what they are doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Thank you for posting this. I think they are actually participating in trials using LSD. https://mindmed.co/news/press-release/phase-2-clinical-trial-of-lsd-for-suicide-headaches-begins-treating-patients/ Maybe psilo, too, but I didn't see anything about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freud Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Yup @CHfatherthats what I read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwunk Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 both. https://mindmed.co/news/press-release/mindmed-and-liechti-lab-provide-results-from-their-psilocybin-rd-collaboration/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHfather Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 That one is not a CH trial, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiny Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I just read this trial report. My takeaway is this: Comparative Effects of LSD and Psilocybin: The perceptual effects of a dose of 100 mcg LSD were found to be equivalent to a dose of 20 mg psilocybin in healthy volunteers. This is the first direct clinical evidence demonstrating the equivalence of psilocybin and LSD on acute psychedelic effects. Psychedelics & SSRIs: Psilocybin was found to be safe to administer together with an antidepressant. Daily pretreatment with escitalopram for two weeks prior to psilocybin administration, reduced anxiety and blood pressure increases associated with psilocybin but did not reduce the acute psychedelic experience in healthy volunteers. That is some important info that we need to think about and integrate here!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanK Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 It would be good to know what their 20mg of Psilocybin is in relation to dried MM. It's been my understanding that LSD to Psilocybin is about 2.5x So 1 tab of 100mcg would be about 2.5g dried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebblesthecorgi Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I am a bit skeptical about the info this company touts. It is incredibly hard and time consuming to do this research (how long has the Yale study been recruiting) and yet looking at what they report, there are no references to scientific journals to support their claims. A search or govermenttrial.gov yields only one LSD and CH study underway since 2019 and still recruiting 30 patients. The D3 study Batch is part of a cluster headache search and still recruiting. It is unlikely to claim expertise and therapeutic results (LSD/Mescaline/psilocybin/etc) in all of these areas. MDMA has been studied by a large group worldwide (led by MAPS) and they are still at least a year away from final results. The time frame is so accelerated and the lack of references is concerning. A slick website, lots of unsubstantiated claims and improbable timelines would suggest great caution. This seems like a financially motivated group trying to piss on every bush in the psychedelic world to claim patent rights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebblesthecorgi Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 ok I found the article, I'm not really soo sure how good it is but thats for journal club I guess. https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpt.2487 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun brearley Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Mindmed started phase2 of its LSD trial for CH 8th June 2020 in basal Switzerland. So I don't know where you get that only 1 LSD and CH study since 2019 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebblesthecorgi Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 That is the study I mentioned. Its the only study underway. Searching clinicaltrials.gov brought it up. Its started in 2019 and is expected to close in 2023 you can search by condition and when you combine cluster headache and lsd its what comes up, it is the only study to match that combo https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03781128?cond=cluster+headache+and+lsd&draw=2&rank=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun brearley Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Sorry miss understood your post pebbles. I do appoligise!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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