davidj

Did you try the ginger yet?

Hi Raquel and welcome. The consensus is that no matter what alternative therapy you try detox is a must (not sure on the Prozac however, anyone else?). Before you even begin your attempt make sure you have oxygen at the ready with the correct mask and regulator (click on the link on the left for more info if you need it) and also some sort of energy drink containing taurine, caffeine, and magnesium. Most of the people here use red bull, I use the sugar free version. Be prepared and try to be patient, some people have found it will get worse before it gets better, but in the long run it works for most. You will get a lot of advise and help here, don't rush into it, get all of the information possible before you begin. There are a lot of threads to read and a lot of information here as well as caring and understanding people. Good luck and keep asking questions as they come up, people will be along to help. David

Hey Tim, As far as I know most of the ones that you listed were okay but I don't know about the lidocaine or mucle relaxer just the taurine etc and I have used them during my bust. The ginger I tried yesterday but it was on a small hit. Positive vibes coming to you from the north. Echo that on the beer, can't wait to try the beer test, not quite there yet. David

Hi again Chris, Unfortunately Imitrex interferes with the seeds. I detoxed 5 days from imitrex (and yes it is very hard to do) and used nothing but 02 and red bull to get me through. I have not used any imitrex since starting this, and my doses have been at minimum 5 days apart. In the past two weeks I have had 3 completely pain free days and I have not had any attacks over a 5 in weeks. I also have been able to easily abort most of my attacks with just 02. Please read my thread " and so the experiment begins" it is very detailed with all the steps I took, days in between, problems and success's. I never had to go over 60 seeds to see results and I am 6 foot tall 172 pounds. I wish nothing but the best for you whatever you decide but you need to do the bust correctly for it to work. PM me if you have any other questions. David

Chris, How many days are you waiting in between, for my experiment I waited at least 5 days btween "cocktails". Good luck with all that you are doing. David

what alleyoop said, I was able to dissolve most of it. I used an organic ginger powder that was very fine and I only had to add a tiny bit of water to finish it. I did use room temperature water so maybe that helped. As far as the taste and heat, I thought I was having bad Japanese food .

I had a small attack at 1 pm today and for "fun" i tried the ginger. I did 1/2 tsp with water and it didn't help much so after 15 minutes or so I did it again and bam, level 1.5 kip gone. I still prefer 02 but this would really be nice in a pinch if you can't get to it and it is a low level (beginning or end of cycle) attack or even for shadows maybe. Thanks Bobb

Tingeling, There was a post out here somewhere about taking Taurine, Magnesium, and caffeine as supplements and it gave the doses. They said you could find them at places like a gnc or health food store if you are in the USA. If I remember correctly they were talking 650mg taurine, 200 caffeine and 65 magnesium but I am not positive. They said they had great results with shadows and reduced kip levels on attacks. Poke around and maybe you can find it here or at www.clusterheadaches.com. David

That seals it, I am moving to Europe, shrooms are legal and they are getting huge donations, makes my donation the other day look even smaller.

Sounds cool and why the heck not. Since my bust began lots of shadows and low level hits so off to the store to buy some ginger. Thanks Bobb David

Bobb, Great info,both very promising and a little scary (lead migration). I for one will stick with my bust method but again I am episodic not chronic so it isn't fair for me to jump too far in on Christine's situation (even though I have in the past).

5th Dose tonight, a little Floyd can't hurt. Thanks Shocked. David

Went to main page, clicked on conference, clicked on sponsorship opportunities, scrolled down and found the donate button and made my donation without becoming a sponsor, just as easy as that LOL. Did you do it in less steps DD? David

Thanks DD, I will give that a try and post my results.

I too am trying to make a donation and I used the link and got a fatal error. I use paypal for other things so my computer shouldn't be the issue. Any suggestions? David

Ditto what Mad6string said, however my caveat is I am episodic not chronic so my alt therapy results might be different than somebody who is chronic. Good luck with what ever you decide Chris but I personally would give the alt therapy a chance before finalizing anything invasive. David

My wife watched Bob Wold's video with me last night as I try to educate her on what I am doing as I attempt my first bust, first comment she made was when he said that a child of a CHer would have a 10% greater chance of getting them than the general population. Once I explained the enormously low % of people diagnosed her fears were eased. I think any of us that are parents or hope to be pray we don't pass this on and if we do that Mr. Wold's tremendous efforts on our behalf bears the fruit we all wish for, legal clusterbusting without experimenting on ourselves. David

Wow, been doing my bust for a month and finally saw the video. All I can say is Thank God for Bob Wold!! David

CArl, I always knew it was my Fathers fault.

I have quit before, during and after cycles, to quote Mark Twain, "quitting smoking is easy I have done it a million times". I have not seen much of a difference either way, what I have found is that I am currently chewing nicorette and I think sometimes that may be a trigger. Hard to say when we are getting a lot a day what is and what isn't a trigger (other than alcohol) but I hear the people who still enjoy smoking after an attack, that was always my favorite cigarette of the day! David

Thanks Brew, clicked and printed.

I just need to vent for a moment. In the past few days I have had one family member and two "friends" tell me they had the cure for my "headaches". The first thing I do is say thanks and then explain there is no cure but lay it on me can't wait to hear this one. First one suggested after I told him I could not go to a concert with him (was starting my alt therapy and the hits were coming fast and furious) that Tai Chi was all I needed, I asked him to check out this our cluster headaches message board before he started telling me how to cure something that I have been dealing with for over 12 years and that I had tried, acupuncture acupressure, bio feedback, massage, chiropractic, lithium, prednisone, verapamil and on and on. He hung up on me LOL. The next person told me all I needed was alkaline water, I checked it out on the Internet and of course it is basically a pyramid scheme and a hoax. He now is mad at me because I wouldn't by his f&*ing water. Next my sister in law said she had a friend who could hook me up to a computer and tell me what was causing all of these "headaches". I was like wow why haven't the Doctors thought of that LOL. Anyway I am just getting this off my chest I am sure there are many of us out there who have had well intentioned friends and family, but when you tell them to check out our cluster boards they never do. Peace out David > >

Mikey-de, Well said and ditto from me. :'(

Quadpants, That is where I ordered them from, going to detox and do them next week for the first time, did 30 work and bust the cycle?

I am new to this site and all I can say is THANK YOU for this thread. I know nothing of RC Seeds but I am so willing to try anything (episodic for 12 years or so) as I am recently out of remission. I tried the website in the thread and was able to order 100 RC seeds, now I just have to figure out how to use them. I am sure you all have it somewhere on the site so I am going to bounce around it till I come up with how this all works. I will keep you posted and what is a little nausea compared to the DEVIL. Thanks again, David