Bonkers

Awesome poem, dude.

It depends on how open she is to alternative treatments of CH, Purp. If she's a by-the-book, this is how I was taught and this is how it is sort of neuro, then yes, she'll probably toss you out on your ear. If she shows interest in your having the tests done that Batch is asking for and wants you to have oxygen after she reads the paper CHfather suggested, then no, she'll have shown that she's interested in alternative treatments, open to your trying them and will want to keep you onboard. However, some of our alt treatments (e.g. fungus) are illegal and she would be risking her license by advocating their use. You might want to hold off talking to her about those.

Isn't that supposed to be 'dumb-ass-kiss?'

Purp, I get the sense that you feel some members here are trying to force this oxygen thing down your throat. That's really not the case. We've all been accosted by religious zealots anxious to share their new-found 'truths' with those of us who just don't see. It's not like that either. What it is, is that everyone here honestly does understand where you're coming from and what your experience is. They also know that oxygen flat-out works - for virtually everyone. And they're dumbfounded when the one thing that they can trust, the one thing that they know they can go to when they feel a hit coming on, is rejected out-of-hand. If for no other reason than just to satisfy all these well-meaning folks who want nothing more from you but your pain, why don't you just give it a shot? If it doesn't work, what have you lost? If by some remote chance it does, look what you've gained. Ron

Purp, The LSD was Michael's first attempt at 'busting' with psychedelics. It was before we knew anything about RC seeds or any of the other busting agents. Subsequent attempts, with any of them, brought him less PF time. It wasn't noticeable at first - everything worked. For us at least, the law of diminishing returns began operating with the 2nd dose. We didn't notice it because we didn't pay any attention to it. Its effects worked so slowly that we didn't notice them till after we'd busted for over a year. I so much hope that ours is an isolated case; we'll just have to see. Everything seems to work better for episodics. Ron

Good on you for showing your doctor these websites. Good on him for bookmarking them. Now let's hope he spends enough time on them to bring his own understanding up to date. Only then can he be a positive force for the CH community.

Spiny, You have Cluster Headaches. You have Horner's Syndrome. You've been off all medications for almost 2 weeks. Your 'dragon' sees this as an opportunity to 'feck' with you (sorry), so he does. Can't blame him; you're an easy touch right now. I'm confident that the path you're following will lead you to effective tools - in the long run. It's not an overnight process. It will take time and trials. Short term - you're going to keep getting hit until you find and learn how to use those tools in ways that are effective for you. I read your posts. I applaud your successes and am saddened by your failures. I admire your tenacity. There's no doubt in my mind that you'll find your way. I know it's difficult to be patient when you're suffering. But, you're gonna get through this. You're gonna be okay. I'm absolutely certain on this one. Ron

Hi Jon, Feel free to PM me if you think I could help. RC seeds are safe, legal and effective. But, you have to take enough of them and you have to prepare them correctly. 10-15 seeds won't do you any good and will only delay your trial of them for 5 more days. If you want to take just enough to see what psychological effects they have, 10-15 seeds won't do that either. Why don't you try 30 seeds. It's a small enough amount that if you do have some sort of adverse reaction to them, you won't be frightened or harmed yet it's enough that you have a good chance of busting as well. Wait 5 days between doses. Increase the dose by 20-30 seeds each time until you've either found some relief or find yourself taking upwards of 150 seeds. Good luck! Keep us posted. Ron

Happy berfday to you. Happy berfday to you. Happy berfday dear Bra-ad. Happy berfday to you. Ron

If there's any reason why your taking a major psychedelic just isn't possible, please give the RC seeds a try. They're legal, easy to find and prepare, and for many they work as well or better than shrooms.

Hi Buzz, I can't tell if the tattoo is on the lower right side of your stomach or the lower left side of your back. It's the most original I've seen since the one with the devil reaching into the guy's eye. Did you do the original drawing? It's really cool. You're in a tough spot, BUZZ. I feel for you since my kid was in the same spot a while back. About 3 years ago, my son and I together decided that if life for him was going to be this painful (the pain would build till he blacked out - several times every day) that I was going to help him end it after the first of the year. About the same time, I read an article in a journal about the success CH'ers were having using psychedelics to both abort and prevent their cycles. We determined to give it a try but spent the rest of the year looking for and finally finding a single tab of LSD. I cut it in half. He took the bigger of the two and we waited. After a couple of hours, with no hallucinations and no relief, he went to bed disappointed that our last and greatest hope was unsuccessful. A couple of hours after that, I woke up to his running up the stairs to my bedroom screaming that "It's gone!! Completely gone!! Background headache and everything!! It's gone." And it was. He was completely PF and it lasted for 5 glorious days. Then he took the smaller half of the tab - to no effect. We had found something that worked but it was all gone, along with it's source and we couldn't find any more. Very soon after that, I found CH.com and ClusterBusters. We tried mushrooms and found that they also worked. It was easy to become a grower and we raised our own medicine. For us, it didn't work forever. But, we got a couple of years where he was getting a lot of PF time during which his depression lifted - and with it, his desire to end his life. Please BUZZ, give this a try. You don't tell us whether you've gotten an accurate diagnosis or if you've tried any of the standard medications or even if you've tried hyperventilating oxygen - the right way. There are many things that might help but you won't know which might help you without trying. Nothing helps everybody but we've found that everyone who tries, finds something here that helps. However, right now I don't think you've got the time; so, without giving up any meds you might be using or reading anything or talking to anybody; don't do anything different or extra except find a dose of a major psychedelic and give it a try. That's all we did - and it changed everything. Your situation and your pain are not unique. There are many others here who've been in the same situation and have experienced the same depth of agony as you have. Give us a chance to help you before you take that permanent solution to what may well be a temporary problem. Ron

Finally! Got Mike to my dentist friend's office today and gave nitrous a whirl. Sadly, it didn't appear to have any effect save getting him high as a kite - which he thoroughly enjoyed. We kept cranking up the nitrous on the oxygen/nitrous mixture over the course of 20-30 minutes. He got higher and higher but it never had any effect on his HA. Too bad. So sad. Mike's dad. Ron

Purp, Maybe you could get your dog to attack your beast?

He's also very, very pretty. Sorta like a Greek goddess.

You'll soon learn enough here that a clown like that won't be able to play you like she did. You'll be able to question everything she says or suggests that you try. I'm guessing that she won't be your doctor for long. Unclear if she works at the Diamond Headache Clinic. If so, I'm surprised, as they have a pretty good reputation.

Hi Evo. Welcome. You made your first post less than 2 hours ago and have already prompted enough responses to keep you reading and learning for at least the rest of the day. We're glad you're here and are certain that you'll find relief using some of the methods you'll be reading about. Feel free to ask questions anytime as there is almost always someone here to help. Good luck!

Looks good to me. Follow the directions. Keep everything as sterile as possible and keep us posted how your jars are doing. Good luck! There're a lot of experts here so please don't hesitate to ask questions when you have them.

My kid's gotten hit more than 22 times - this week! and he isn't considering suicide. Why? Because of the pain it would bring me, his mother and his sister. That's why most people don't. That's enough reason not to. That their pain wouldn't matter to him afterwards is a complete cop-out. Their pain does matter. Especially if you're the cause of it. Suicide ruins entire families. The survivors never get over it. I'm sorry you're suffering so. I can't imagine having CH on top of gender dysphoria resulting in gender transition. It just seems to be too much to ask anyone to bear. It isn't fair. But that's exactly what's being asked of you. You can bear it because you have borne it and are bearing it this moment. You just have to keep doing what you're doing till the sun comes out. And you know it will. You might ask your grown up son, who no longer depends on you, if he thinks it's a good idea.

Hi Fester, Not all 'grow kits' are created equal. Mind telling who you ordered yours from and what it contains? And, what are the 'random spore syringes'? Just trying to help here; don't mean to pry. Ron

Awesome post, spiny. Thank you for writing it.

Hi Jon, Welcome. The more you read - even if at first you have to force yourself - the more comfortable you'll become in learning about and discussing the alternative methods of coping with CH that we talk about here. We're adventurous 'citizen scientists' (can't remember who coined that term) looking for and trying things, either intentionally or accidentally, in hopes of finding relief for this god-awful condition. The discovery that psychedelics can prevent cycles from even occurring was an accident. Many of the more 'natural' remedies were discovered when they provided relief while being taken for some other malady. Many, if not most, of these remedies aren't effective for everyone and some only provide relief for a few. Some work for a while and then lose effectiveness. While nothing appears to work for everyone, we've found that for almost everyone, something they find here does. We're glad you're here. Nobody's gonna shove anything down your throat. Read as much as you will and ask questions. Most of the information you're looking for, you'll find in the ClusterBuster Files: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=files. Here's an informative video of a talk given by our founder, Bob Wold: Good luck, Ron

Unencumber? Unencumber THIS!!

If it's not too much trouble, would you please keep us informed about your husbands progress; what works and what doesn't and how he's doing? Thanks.

Keep trying, girlfriend. Even if the bust doesn't work or if it does but doesn't give you more than a day or two of relief; every time you hit that MF, you weaken it. Mike's still getting hit hard every day. It wasn't too long ago that we had to go to the ER where he was admitted for 3 days. Still.... he's in so much better shape now, than he was before busting, that I can't help but believe that it's the shrooms that have made the difference. I'm so sorry you're having so much trouble right now, Danny, but you're gonna be okay. You have to be - you're our hero. Ron

Me too.