Racer1_NC

I've had it not work.....but never make it worse. That being said.....I've learned most anything is possible with this crap.

First off....sorry I'm late to the party.....and now some questions.... The mask.....for the oxygen store.....did it have holes in the mask area and a strap to hold it on one's head? If so....that mask is slightly better than nothing for our uses but not nearly as effective as the mask that CHFather references in his post. Worlds of difference between the 2. The Cluster Kit uses a mask that forms a tight seal allowing only 100% O2 to be inhaled. This is important. Did the user have to wait on the bag to fill up between breaths? If so, this can cause O2 to be less effective. From my observations..most any adult male attempting to abort a cluster headache can out run 15 lpm with ease. While there are some that report successful methods using lower flow O2, my personal experiences have been that deep breaths of pure O2....trying to hyperventilate.....and never having to wait on the bag to refill between breaths are what works for me. Sometimes it takes a little practice, trial and error to find out what works for an individual. I may catch some flack for saying this....but I'd be remiss if I didn't. Sometimes O2 doesn't work even with the proper mask, flow rate and methods. Granted most failures can become successes with some help / pratice but there are some that it just plain doesn't work for. Heck...I've had a couple times that it didn't do a damn thing.....and a few that all it did was hold the pain down to a less than critical level. I'm lucky.....this doesn't happen often but it's damn scary when it does. That being said....DO NOT give up. O2 works for many and one "no effect" usage isn't nearly enough of a trial. Please....let us know how it's going. There are many years of experience here and we don't mind sharing....as the saying goes....it's what we do. Bill

I have a demand valve.....and a 40 LPM regulator......the 40 is a poor man's demand valve as is the Harbor Freight welding regulator. A demand valve's advantage over the other two is it can conserve O2 as it does nothing until you breathe in. Some tend to think the equipment is the magic bullet......it's not. It's the ability to keep up with the user's breathing. If a person using proper technique can't out run a 25 LPM flow...in other words never has to wait for the bag to fill and can keep breathing, any higher flow rate is a waste and will not help. On the other hand if you are like me and can out run a 40 LPM during a hard hit, the demand valve or the welding reg will make a difference. I guarantee no human can out run a weld reg. If you can.....PM me....we'll be rich in a week. You are correct. The dial settings have nothing to do with the DISS fitting. In fact I can use the demand valve while someone else is using the barb fitting outlet at 25 lpm. Does tend to drain an E tank in a hurry but sometimes ya do what ya gotta. The cheap HF regs we like to recommend do not have DISS fittings as a standard port unless they have made a design change....of course they could have been cheating me on the ones I've purchased.

Great idea! I use 2 liter soft drink trays for my tank farm. Good for the closet and basement.

It's up to us to educate them. In any event...the important thing is to get the script written......one can then source their own regulator for a high flow rate.

He didn't explain it to you because he probably doesn't know himself. The proper flow rate is as much as it takes for you to hyperventilate.

As CHfather asked, have you tried O2? My experience with Zomig was positive, but aborting with O2 has been my main course of action for several years now.

Supporters....conventions......hard to live without either....

This......

If you are having to wait for the bag to refill, you need a regulator with a higher flow rate.

The domain was registered to DJ...I think..... Looks like when it came up for renewal someone missed a deadline and the domain got snapped up. It's not right....but what can ya do?

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While I can't see guest info here....many times on message boards those "guests" are search engine bots passing through.

Which are unaccessable to people without a FB account.

Nah......never have done the FB thing. On Twitter, CH.com and here....that's about all I can keep up with. I certainly appreciate the kind words. The past week has been a very rough one but it's getting better in small.....very small ways. Not much would keep me from attending a CH conference but family is always the top priority.

DD..... I had to cancel at the last minute for family reasons. I usually would post up more pics than people wanted to look at. I hate I can't do that this year. Hopefully next year I'll be able to once again post a few for those that can't attend. B

There goes the neighborhood. . . . . . . . . . <Cool beans....glad you two are coming!>

https://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1384466239 among others.....

They will let you leave Florida......or have you forgotten?

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NOw this is good news!

I agree with your statement 100%. However........the waste comes when one stops to cough....down some water to combat the dry throat or any other such pause and the bag fills to capacity and then vents. For myself I don't cut it back under those circumstances because I will be back to it shortly. Maybe I'm the odd one but during use I tend to worry about getting enough flow and not as much about overflow. So that's why I say slightly....it's not much but it's enough to notice when your anal like I am. ;D I do try to stress that a demand valve is the high end option. A welding reg or a 40lpm med unit will abort just as well and at a lower equipment cost. I have tanks set up in my home office, my bedroom and my truck....only one is a demand valve. I sure won't run past the other two to get to it...that should tell ya something.

O2 regulators are no problem..... http://www.wtfarley.com/ sells about anything you can think of. CGA 540 reg with a DISS is $55.00. There are of course other places to look such as Ebay, but if you want one right now they are a good option. There are also adapters.....If you were to buy an E tank regulator, you can purchase an adapter to allow usage on a 540 outlet....or the other way around. Go here: http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/mh-transfillers.htm to check that option out. There are other ways to get high flow o2 other than demand valves....they just happen to be the best and one of the most costly. I love mine, but I get about the same results from a 40lpm reg and a clustermask.....it just uses slight more O2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ZA7H2a9d4&sns=tw

This coming from someone that used the pronoun "I" at least 12 times in one post.....just saying.