m9ndbent Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hello, Ive been lurking about for a few weeks trying to get a feel for the board before posting. I am ready now in more ways than one. So, my story............ I am a (relatively) healthy, thin, tall 39 yr old male who lives in the UK, and thinking back I can remember episodes of headpain that have woken me from sleep in a confused way for well over 18 years now. About 8 years ago they started to happen more frequently and definately when I was stressed and/or drinking. I put it all down to my lifestyle/dehydration/hangovers/comedowns/class a,b n c. substances. Then about 8 years ago they became so bad I really believed I had something seriously wrong with my head (tumourously wrong) but being a single, single minded kinda guy at the time I sensibly decided to ignore the pain, not go to the doctor, take more drugs and alcohol and resign myself to the misconceived truth that I was either going to die from this tumour or die from all the partying I was doing. (I was working in clubs with flashy lights, free booze, pretty girls and drugs) Well those times soon passed and I stopped the club work, slowed down the partying, knocked all drugs on the head except smoking weed, and started to listen to my body instead of the party animal who still lives in me. Then I had the headaches (kip 9/10) so bad they scared me shitless, I cried, smashed my head against things, I could not sit still, the pain was excruciating, made my eye water, the snot in the right side of my head to turn to thick jelly, my head got ultra sensitive, I looked like I was having a stroke, and even after them I had the feeling there was something shadowy in my head, this made me scared depressed terrified of sleep...... So I went to a hospital and after a few blood tests the doctor said he thought I had Cluster Headaches, to take a letter to my doctor and good luck. However I was "sofa surfing" at the time in London, not living anywhere really so did not have a doctor to see, I was working sporadically in clubs, however I was savvy enought to google and research all I could on my condition, surely there was something I could do/change/medicate myself with? Eventually I settled down in the North of England and had long stretches PF. But as always, around September time after a glass of red or a beer they would start. So I went to a specialist headache clinic, got myself Verapamilled Steroided, ECG'd Sumatriptaned Injectioned nasal sprayed MRI'd and declared free of Tumours. Phew. However last year I was a zombie on the meds. Thinking through treacle and forgetting things I had just done. My ECG's were not good. I only ever had a few kip 2's and some shadows on the meds, so they worked, but the trade off is not good enough for me, I have 3 kids and a 7 month old baby now to look after, hard enough without a chemical cosh. My cycle, for some reason, has come early this year. My nurse was away so I thought I would tough this one out with o2, but your mind plays tricks with you, you forget just how painful they are and yesterday I had a kip 5 whilst driving home only to find I had run out of o2 (I have some again now thanks to my wife being a nurse and saying it was an emergency). So I got onto the phone to a friend who just mentioned he may have some fungi, he has, yes I can have it. I am going to dose tonight. Its funny, but during all my drug taking days I refrained from mushrooms, lsd, DMT. I'm a bit scared, well maybe more nervous to be honest, but I have read these forums, extracted the relevant excellent info and have a very supportive wife who will baby sit me. so let me introduce myself, I am going to be m9ndbent. And hopefully break these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hey m9dbent, Here's hoping we'll hear a report back of success after you've tried mother nature's treatment. If you see this before dosing, a couple things to keep in mind if you happen to find yourself having a stronger experience than expected: Don't worry too much, you'll be very much coming back down to earth within 3 hours. And it'll likely be entirely worn off within 6 hours. Music music music. A good coping strategy (for me at least) is lying on the floor, closing your eyes and listening to some music you love, but that isn't too dark themed. Personally I find later era Beatles to be ideal. 8-) People and other things may look weird. Just know ahead of time that this is a side effect - they don't really look this way. Write yourself and your wife a note ahead of time about what to do if have an attack (such as breathe O2 from the tank at x LPM for x minutes), so you can just refer to it and be confident you're doing the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingeling Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi Welcome to you Seems you read alot. But if you wonder you ask a hed. If you need talk about something, go ahed Gooog luck to you tonight Hope to see your post soon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleyoop Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Happy Trails! bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidj Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi and Welcome, Read as many posts as you can on the shrooms, they will help you dose correctly and also how often. If you run out of fungi look into RC seeds and hBWR seeds, not sure how available in the UK maybe some of out friends over there can chime in (we can buy them on line here). Most of the time you will need multiple doses to start breaking your cycle, I have done 8 already, some seeds and some fungi and my hits and pain levels are way down. Also your 02 will become more effective. Ask lots of questions, as you know from your lurking there is a lot of help here. Good Luck, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m9ndbent Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hello everyone. wow! what a quick response. Meds, yup off those, for about 6 months now, no alcohol as soon as I realised. Will write a note to myself, its just the drugs etc. Am just about to go pick up my package, so will decide what music, the Orb maybe Floyd maybe, maybe not Darkside of the Moon, maybe beachboys or just some tripped out electronica with no lyrics to focus on. Having taken just about everything else in the past, I kinda know what to expect, coming up, riding it, losing it .......however the best laid plans of mice and men etc, just been on the o2 as the beast I think knows this is coming... Will report back tomorrow? in a few days....gonna go for 1.5g dried made into tea. Oh, and visuals, (that was my job in clubs to create video visuals for the music) I kinda want those, Ive heard so many stories, so I may do more... Thanks for all the good wishes. out. for now... m9ndbent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carole Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Floyd Darkside of the Moon definitely!!!!!! Best of luck, Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad6string Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Remember man, EASY, PEAZY, LEMON SQUEEZY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayhedges Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Looking forward to your update. Wish we all had the access you do so quickly but you've paid your dues for years and done your research...Floyd or the Beachboys...that's the only thing that worries me about your post. You are obviously bipolar, too! Good luck brother and we'll all be here looking forward to details about how you kicked the Beast to the curb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidj Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 gonna go for 1.5g dried made into tea. Good starting dose, use lemon and I like to chew up the little babies real good after they sit in the tea for a bit. By the way I vote for Floyd, Meddle maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psiloscribe Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Welcome m9ndbent, I'd obviously vote for Floyd but you need to be careful. If you listen to; On The Turning Away, you'll end up writing a check to a homeless shelter the next day and if you listen to The Wall, you'll pull your kids out of school ;D. Bobw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1961mom Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Welcome m9ndbent My vote is sort of musically tilted....watch an American Movie and just giggle at our accents! Put your order in now for your next dose It's the very best treatment I've ever used, but it is a treatment to be sure! Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad6string Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I'd obviously vote for Floyd but you need to be careful. If you listen to; On The Turning Away, you'll end up writing a check to a homeless shelter the next day and if you listen to The Wall, you'll pull your kids out of school Hahahahaha, That's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidj Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Hahahahaha, That's funny First laugh in days, thanks Donnie and Bob W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m9ndbent Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Ok. That wasn't too bad.... Thankyou all for the musical suggestions, I went with the Orb, Floyd, (darkside) Infected mushroom! and the KLF (white room) Dosed about 11pm, lights off, candles on. Nothing spectacular happened, all very subtle and quite like being very stoned. However, towards the end about 2am I felt like something in my head had been lifted. I had a 4am attack on the left hand side* Next day all good in the morning no shadows, felt like I had taken something, ie, bit wooly n tired. 3 attacks during the day, all quite bad kip 4/5 o2 helped but took a lot longer to abort, evening ch lasted a couple of hours (maybe cause I had to drive and this seems to be a trigger for me sometimes) Too early to tell today yet. Just up. its 7.30ish am as I type this. I have another dose prepared for 3 days time now..... * I am unilateral, usually on the right hand side, allthough it swapped last year when I took a nasal spray once... Interestingly my o2 supplier told me yesterday he had been very busy with his CH patients, he thinks the weather has something to do with it....(a typical Brit cant go 5 seconds without talking about weather, this is because of the frequency of change here) I do too. Anyone else affected by the climate? I think I read that nearer the equator there are fewer CH cases. @1961mom I find Canadian accents the funniest... thats all for now... m9ndbent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad6string Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 It's been a bad season for most of us. I think it has something to do with the barometric pressure. I get hit during a thunderstorm, low pressure. I can tell if the day is going to be good or bad by the barometer. mad6string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Last time I dosed, I decided to watch an Eagles DVD. Switched on the DVD recorder, & up popped the fluorescent blue Phillips logo darting across the screen, from one side to the other.....Facinating....Spent the next 20 mins watching that. CArl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad6string Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 That's funny too. CArl, it seems me and you have the same experiences. I got stuck watching a dolphin screen saver for about an hour once. Mad6string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yury66 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 WOW man that's like the story of my life !! I'm 44 now started getting hit by the beast whenI was 30 after 12 years of progressive partying coke mdma lsd the works clubs after hours all over europe . then I settled in Italy and started with one 2 week period of pain every year that slowly became 2 2 month periods so I went to get MRI no tumor thank god but CH was introduced to me by that time i was a puritan not even smoking sigarettes a glass of wine here and there 10 years of that taking verap imitrex cortisone and everything they threw at me...got worse and worse have a great deal of responsibility in my work and the tension and the travelling was no friend of mine"try telling business people you need a O2 tank in your hotel room",now desperate i stumboled on this blog GREAT I ordered my spores and first kit from amsterdam being that here no one has shrooms,witing patiently and trying to cut down on meds using O2 as much as possible and ice ice ice ..as soon as I harvest i'm gonna give it a try ,no music I wanna be outdoors mountain maibie and enjoy the ride hopin it takes me to pf heaven!! so i'm anxious to hear your result!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I have another dose prepared for 3 days time now..... Hello mb, You need to wait 5 days my friend. Your receptors will not be open for at least another 5 days. Personally I prefer 7 days between doses. CArl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidj Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 You need to wait 5 days my friend. Trust him on this, that is the standard minimum between doses. Post dose hits are very common and it sounds like you are getting plenty of those. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m9ndbent Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Yeah, Thanks CArl, I was counting 5, but maybe I will wait a bit longer, Although I am getting what I hope is post dose hits (it would explain why the beast has/is changing sides?) I do feel better when I am between them, no shadows, head only a little sensitive etc. @Yuri66 Hi! maybe we've met before? I was also a Eurobrat, lived in Holland, Germany, France, lots of international schools, and friends who I never kept in touch with. Funny but I know of more than a few clubbers and late night workers who seem to suffer with CH now. m9nbent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejeeber Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 ... trying to cut down on meds using O2 as much as possible and ice ice ice .. Sorry for this quick digression everyone, but Yury, since you respond well to the cold stuff, I should mention that breathing cold air with your nose right on the vent of a cranked air conditioner can also abort a hit for some of us some of the time (when the O2 isn't available). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidj Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 it would explain why the beast has/is changing sides Whenever it start doing something out of the ordinary after a dose it usually means it is fighting back, that is actually a very good sign Though mine didn't completely switch over I did start getting sharp pain on my other side that came quite often but didn't last but a few seconds. Good luck. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunGuy Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Gotta agree with Carl, at least 5 days. Words of wisdom. I learned the hard way that dosing too soon doesn't help. (or at least didn't help me) http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1261079253 FG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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