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Spiny that reminds me to start planning on stocking up on heat sensitive vitamins (the B vitamins in a multi are especially in this category), before the hot months encroach here. And Joe maybe something for you to keep in mind too, that stuff shipped from the roasting US in the summer could be exposed to some high sustained heat on the way over there to the Emerald Isle?

Hey Joe! I was slammed twice last week in one day. It had been a long time since that had happened because of the D3 Regimen. I doubled my D3 intake from 10k/day to 20k/day. In 24 hours, I was back to pf status. And the beast returned to slumber. If memory serves, D3 can be hard to get some places over there, but perhaps your multi is easier to obtain. Perhaps not the one you have been taking, but another brand to tide you over? I would try that if it is possible. Then order extra when you do order with the craziness in the world now. ATB! If you want to discuss busting, start a new thread and put it in Theory and Implementation or Share your Busting Stories as they are both private files. You will receive a lot of help there too!!

Thank you both for the responses I'll be trying the meditation first thing and reading up on the link Jeebs provided. Much appreciation to you both!

...YUP, job stress and the anguish of CH nearly took my mind....mostly by accident discovered that 20 mins of meditation EVERY day at lunchtime was incredibly refreshing, restorative, and instrumental in "maintaining". no training, no "method" just cleared my mind by concentrating on breathing only. a trained, directed version probably even better....

Hi @BoscoPiko! Good question. I thought this fairly recent scientific study on the subject, using MRi and everythang, which concluded ".......if you want to get something out of your mind so you can put in new information, 'suppress' works best.", was interesting enough to be trying their technique some myself. Not sure yet how well it has worked for me - I have so many self recrimination inducing memories vying for attention, it will take a good while to work through them and try to boot them out.

Thank you, Craig. Thanx Batch... seems to help and I'll take every bit o' help!! Sue

There is an app for most phones if not all that I swear by called headspace, has guided meditation, half ass tailored to current mood. I find it helps ease the dread and the rest.

Here, this is the easiest thing. I've listened to this religiously since having a record player, then a clear/color Memorex cassette tape and a Boombox. Anyways, this helps the most. I bet most forgot about this great one. This reminds me of my father in his reader with his pipe (God I miss the smell of pipe tobacco), my father was the true definition of The 70s/80s intellectual, the HiFi stereo loud, and my mom rolling dumplings. Hell, most likely we had a console TV. The cable was pointless-10 channels. Walk of Life While it has nothing to do with happiness, explicitly, anyone over 38 gets it. This song always makes me happy and brings back a lot of memories. This may be an East Coast, Mid-Atlantic, and my NJ connection? It helps me a ton. Oh, FYI, I take a backpack whenever I must head out. It has headphones with an adapter, a good book, wigging out pills, flipping shit pills, Pain Pills, Headache Abort Narcotics, and my medical records should I need to go to hospital. Try music therapy or book therapy.

Thanks Juss I'll check it out

Pretty funny there, Juss... "what normal people do"...? Most normal people fall off into defense mech's and or abnormal nonproductive and maladaptive coping techniques. LoL. Really. Booze, drugs, illegal immoral unethical sex, etc... etc. It can be a difficult thing to simply go through something rough (like chas) and not pick up an ...mmmm...? bad habit. I believe all of us want to be psychologically healthy. So. Either you face your issues and work on them? Or your issues *will work their way up until you are in a face off w them. Like it or not? You will always be walking towards good mental health via facing your issues. Its just how it goes. I have known one person who constantly & consistently worked on his issues. It didn't appear to be easy.

Boscopiko. I was told to meditate by a world class w.pls. horse trainer. I ended up rly liking it. I do it a fair amount, sometimes it helps me slide into sleep - which prolly coincides w it being a trigger for bejeebers. I don't believe it is exactly what you are looking for.... but i would simply encourage you to go down this path. In quantum physics? The observer effect is when the act of you being an observer and by observing? Things change. They usually reference this as to microscopes, but it applies across the board. So by meditating? You become the observer to your life's events etc.. and this allows for change to happen. Its fairly common to go from warrior to healer in one's life.. ala Dances w Wolves or the Last Samurai or even, the Horse Whisperer, for quick reference. Freud ushered in great change in his day by recognizing the trauma caused by sex abuse of daughters by fathers (for fast answer) and he then handed reins of control off to Jung. Jung was into metaphysical and when Bill famously wrote to Jung to ask for help w how to beat his obsession w alcohol? Jung advised 3 things. Chief among them, the way to beat the worst enemy? Was to harness God. So, meditation at 30 minutes a day. An hour if you are under a lot of stress, I've seen recommended. Being obsessive about a medical issue until I've conquered it as best able to? Is fairly normal for me. So, popping into that mode and thinking about it a lot is not problematic for me. Howevah... the people around me often find more difficulty w it than i do They do say.. quiet the mind, and the heart opens- to God. Thats pretty much the bottom line w meditation.

The Feeling Good Handbook https://5l8rgdu48v.pdcdn.xyz/dl2.php?id=187690028&h=ad43fae745df5f9ea66e90700de32fe2&u=cache&ext=pdf&n=The feeling good handbook Feeling Good The New Mood Therapy https://d565a6i560.pdcdn.xyz/dl2.php?id=33413232&h=c125d95c465f61f9d97a1f7a8709b82a&u=cache&ext=pdf&n=Feeling good by david burns You are beyond normal, save yourself thousands, and perform Bibliotherapy, which is CBT by yourself. Dr. David Burns wrote the two best self-help books ever, all experts agree. That should save you $30. It helped my crazy ass. The Feeling Good book is clinically proven to be better at treating depression than any antidepressant. This just came to me, it is not uncommon to think about the difficulties that you mention. I am a straight shooter and not good at smoothing things over, but I have found that it never goes away. My headaches come and go now. They are not episodic or truly chronic; however, they come around enough to tell me who is boss. I think you are handling it best by asking mature, responsible adults that live normal lives. That stated you have to filter the madness, or it will eat you up inside. I have not met one person with any severe illness that has reversed course, exemption Max Gerson type Cancer. Outside of that extreme, your problem is here and it will let you know. This is what I ain't good at. You can't bottle it, but you can't hide from it either. I hope someone that has a background with the head doctor department can help. The noise in my head began in 1995, it never turned off. I'm afraid since that fateful day it has all been a matter of survival. In your case perhaps you can talk to friends, family and let them share responsibilities? I'm sorry, but if you dump all of your problems on one person, the outcome is always a disaster. I hope the best for you. I feel that it gets easier with time. For some, they are lucky and deal with just one issue. It is when the shit stack keeps piling, that it becomes an issue.

First, you need to understand what cognitive distortion is. This is a decent, not great, intro. Inappropriate, the newest forms of therapy are all “talk therapy,” which is a waste of money and not proven to be efficacious. Of all the alphabet soup therapies, CBT is proven numerous times. I highly recommend psychoanalytically based therapies-that is subjective. https://positivepsychology.com/cognitive-distortions/ Cognitive Restructuring helps to change the distortion, the taxing thought that you have, and turn it into an appropriate thought. For more information that appropriately reflects the explanation use Startpage or the search engine of preference for more information. https://optionscounseling.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/4StepsCognitiveRestructuring.pdf https://nbcgutah.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Thinking.challenge.pdf Cognitive Dissonance is important and reflects upon the worksheet included above. https://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html A Daily Dysfunction Log helps to end procrastination and eradicate negative thoughts I believe that page 180 (of the book) has the record https://www.guardianone.org/__static/7c741eabfe3d2c5e267029cd2b31f948/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-sourcebook.pdf?dl=1 https://deploymentpsych.org/system/files/member_resource/Daily Record of Dysfunctional Thoughts-1.pdf

I didn't mean to not respond to the rest of your message either I'm just a bit slow rt now .. you are rite In the sense that I don't know shit and should be happy that not all has been robbed from me! Sometimes it's easy to feel sorry for one's self.. Not proud of it.. just trying to comprehend..

I will research what normal people do. I have many of the great clinical guides. There are a few things that I can think of: Cognitive Restructuring Log, Daily Dysfunction Log. I believe that I still have the online information: I know how to do these by memory, but that won't help you. I don't use street drugs, not anymore, majority of the time I had scripts-not relevant. Truly, they want you to deal and process with the emotion. That is great if you can do that. Most of us can't, if faced with any type of crippling pain. I will look for these. It will help you a lot more.

Thanks Juss but I don't want to be numb..I don't use any drugs (maybe I should lol) I love the music you posted! I'm just trying to figure things out. if I'm blitzed I can't take care if my duties as a wife, grandmother and friend so that's not an option but I appreciate your response!

Here, just listen to this (with good drugs if necessary) whenever you are wigging out. I used to love this before surfing. If there is one thing that I miss it was surfing. Chauncey’s Surf Shop sponsored me until I moved for that damn ex. This always lifts my spirits-lots of history perhaps. This was played heavily in its day.

I am just as concerned about oxidative stress. Tailoring the Batch Protocol, I still had numerous complications and symptoms. That stated, for most, you can owe your life to Batch. For example, Now Foods 5,000IU D3 and MK7 with a weekly 50,000 IU (Now Foods) keeps I dialed in. Respectfully, Calcium appears overkill. Most of us have far too much Calcium (Osteoarthritis, Bone Spurs, Numerous Spine Issues) come from over calcification, thus, I take 3,000mg of MSM (advised). If you are not sure, though exceptionally difficult, find a doctor that knows what in the hell they are doing. There are methods to determine most vitamins and minerals that you lack: otherwise, you are pissing in the wind. Your skin and hair tell-all, as well. Most of that information is available and reliable. I never use anything, but reputable vitamins to my preference. And, I stay loaded on an all 72 multi-mineral. Then, an additional multivitamin. And, I take additional minerals from hair analysis. There are at least 15 nutraceuticals not worth listing as well. It appears as if everyone has an opinion, just like under britches. Lifeextensions, Now Foods, sometimes Garden of Life, though exceptionally difficult to discern Jarrow Formulas, even Source Naturals. In my circumstance, I had to dig substantially deeper-still am. I also have neurodegenerative conditions, which scream an overload of neurotoxins and oxidative stress. Good luck. Out of respect to Batch, the group, a lack of a lab, and far fewer science courses, I don't share anything that I am learning.

This! ^^^ Ditto for me, just more of an evening habit in my case. I tend to come out of it feeling like a most welcome reset button has been pushed, and with a relative feeling of physical homeostasis. Now if I could just keep the meditation from triggering attacks while in cycle (oof!), much the same as other super relaxing activities such as naps and night time slumber will.

Thanks Jon, That sounds doable, I'll give it a go especially since you mentioned "no training no method" I have a small gym in my office that my husband made for me so I can go in there, lock the door and give it a try. I just feel so tired of the constant one way train of thinking...

Thanks Jeebs, I'll check it out

Hey Sue, You really need to thank Craig Stewart. He did all the work to make this video possible. Regarding Vitamin A, the Kirkland Adult 50 Plus Mature Multi contains Vitamin A as Beta Carotene. Our bodies convert Beta Carotene to the active form of Vitamin A. Accordingly, if you're taking the Kirkland Mature Multi, you are getting sufficient amounts of Vitamin A. Take care and please keep us posted. V/R, Batch