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Hmmm if I remember correctly Wellbutrin affects dopamine more than serotonin, so I guess I don't really don't know - it does seem worth looking into though, since there are headbangers who have had good busting results while remaining on their SSRI anti-depressant. Fingers crossed that the same luck could be found with Wellbutrin.....

This causes my eyes to bug out. Way out. That is the coolest thing ever, humbuckers and all. 8-) [smiley=thumbup.gif]

I wish I could tell you I've seen a definitive answer to that question, but unfortunately some feel strongly that 5 is a hard and fast rule, while others believe just as strongly that 4 or even 3 days can suffice. So this is one topic where I don't have any feeling that there's a real consensus among CBusting folk, and it could probably even be deemed controversial. :-/

Ugh, yeah been there in high cycle where the O2 aborts for wake up hits tend to hold for exactly one hour. Here's hoping that AT LEAST the severity remains somewhat tempered, and that it could even be an indicator that the entire cycle is beginning to wane and is on the way out.

Cool. 8-)

Best of luck iPain. You're way overdue for some luck of the good variety. And I know whatcha mean about finding the heat/cold to be more useful for the attacks that aren't at such an astronomic/nuclear level, although that's limited to my experience with attempts to abort an attack - I guess I haven't really pursued the heat/cold just with the hopes of lessening the severity of a hit that's not going to be aborted.

Whoa, Impressive! Seems like when you decide to do something, you just fully commit and go for it, no idling around. 8-) You sure have yourself a good tattoo artist there.[smiley=thumbup.gif]

Yay.

Yeah I'm afraid most if not ALL of us are familiar with that sad and tired old routine! I sure hope you can get to a good headache specialist sooner than later, Legion, as it's hard to imagine one of them trying to slap the hillbilly heroin on ya - certainly the experience wouldn't be as FUBAR as it is with your current doc. Glad the girlfriend didn't comply with your hammering instructions.Â

Thanks for the update MG, that's pretty darn tootin' interesting.

Oh. Well based on my personal experience, that can be a MAJOR game changer right there, since as episodics we do have the option that our chronic compadres don't have of riding out a cycle with meds, then following up with maintenance busting. I've ridden out a 2.5 month cycle before with O2 and meds (plenty of trex jabs at high cycle for the wake up hits) when RC didn't bust it for me, and have successfully busted with vit M ever since, so I can see this approach working for others too, especially when there are only 2 weeks or so expected to be left of a cycle. With hyper-vigilance, luck, and armed to the teeth, I was able to abort every single hit during that 2.5 months, at least well enough that I never had to endure a full blown, full length (3 hour long) version. So my take on it is that we don't have to adopt a religious sort of shunning of all meds when there's a temporary, critical situation they can very likely help us out of. [Caveat: keeping in mind that there's a slight risk of an episodic pattern treated with meds turning into a chronic one when we least expect it - a risk I took and was lucky enough to come out the other end fine.]

Understood about the need to have that trex injection handy. You might find some recent posts by Ricardo on the subject of trex injections in proximity to busting to be interesting, keeping in mind that there can be a wide variation in how we CH'ers respond to these things, and that Ricardo takes unusually high Vit M doses: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1369049582/11#11

Hey iPain, the following idea may seem ridiculous, and maybe it isn't really a realistic or advisable option for you, but just grasping at straws here I started thinking about how close you are there in South Florida to the Bomba Shack. I don't even know if the Bomba Shack still exists, but If you haven't heard about it, here's a link to a thread devoted to it: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1297450426

I'm compiling a few of those here for the heckuvit. There's a photo circulating somewhere on this message board I think of the last graphic on the bottom tattooed quite largely onto a members calf (it was photographed at a CB conference).

Hey iPain, If you're considering trying other busting materials such as vit M, that does sound like a logical next step to me. Certainly there have been others (including myself) who've been able to get back in the busting saddle again after switching. Also, have you tried different vendors / fresh seeds for your latest RC busts? Some of us believe RC potency can possibly be an issue from batch to batch.

Hey Legion, so glad you're connecting with other CH'ers and their supporters now, because THAT'S when a headbanger tends to finally find valuable info about how to get some genuine relief. And I'm even gladder to see CHfather is your first responder, because in typical fashion he just laid out a fantastically thorough and succinct CH killing road map there for ya. I'll just add that CH'ers trying melatonin on for size are known to start with a 9 mg dose before bed, then increase in 3 mg increments all the way up to 18 or even 21 mg if necessary. About your oxycodone prescription: There are drugs commonly prescribed by headache specialists for CH and oxy absolutely isn't one of them. Yep, it's just wrong, dammit. Hey have ya seen the National Geographic episode about CH and busting ? (Busting is a more effective CH preventative then any prescription). Well here it is - the segment starts around 30:50 into this video and it features our debonair forum member Dan/Hipshot and his lovely wife LeeAnn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjteSZu_JqM

WT FACK??!! I didn't even know that was possible. > Really sorry to hear that your beast is right at the forefront of such innovations. Â

COOL. 8-) Nice photo of y'all hangin' with Jay Leno too.

Happy birthday Matty, and hope to see you in Chicago in September for the convention.  [smiley=birthdays.gif]

"When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute -- then it's longer than any hour. That's relativity!"Â Â - Albert Einstein

DAM. I'm afraid all manner of headbangers may be delayed at airport security on their way to the CB convention when their prednisone induced hip replacements send the metal detectors into full tilt (if the hips are being replaced with some sort of titanium or other metal...?)

Thank you for piping in about that Ajax - I know I needed the reminder, as I've been hearing good things about it from you and others, but it slipped me brain. This is getting interestinger and interestinger.

That's a heck of an interesting angle you have there with the small doses of trex in proximity to busts, Ricardo. Question: Do you recall ever going a full 5 days detox before a bust? I (and if so was the bust any more effective than usual?) And chrisw, is it safe to assume you're just injecting "partial" but effective doses of trex in the 2mg / 3mg range, not what amounts to a completely unnecessary overdose of an entire 6 mg syringe per abort?

Hi Jubal - glad to see you're getting info here about the O2, busting, etc. that has gotten many a headbanger off the prescriptions and and enjoying some serious pain free time. Ooh I admire a lot more expensive guitars than I own, but if any of those you've acquired are "vintage" I bet you've actually made some really good inve$tments there. 8-) -Jeebs, member of the Fuster Cluckers, gigs pending at the Bomba Shack. ;D

That is clearly a seriously fecked situation you're in Chrisw, I just hope that after you run the detox gauntlet this week you get some good busting relief. Certainly there are headbangers who have been in a similar severe situation, but have somehow made it through, and are now so glad they managed to stick it out. Please listen to Cman59/Johnny who has made it through 40 years chronic, and is enjoying some good life now. I read your previous posts about how cafergot can work for you when you're on the seizure meds, but vit M is blocked, and I can see why you became interested in paper. I know we're all racking our brains here trying to think of some ways for you to deal with the upcoming week. Ordinarily I'd bring up melatonin for those night hits, up to 21mg, and trying an energy shot/drink along with the O2, since some CH'ers report it can make the difference between O2 working or not, plus they can somehow go back to sleep despite the caffeine blast, but I figure that's all probably old hat stuff to you..? The only other thing that's occurring to me at the moment is whether you're hyperventilating super high flow O2? If anyone should be using a full on O2 demand valve system right now, I'm thinking it's YOU. Hell I do know from experience though that in a crushing high cycle even the huffing of high flow O2 can be iffy for the major wake up hits. :'( Just know that you have a helluva cheering squad here and we're pulling for you in a major way to get to that Friday busting goal.