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Oh. Well that's not good at all. As we say in the states, "Dog Darnit!". OK, I shouldn't incriminate others, in actuality I'm probably the only one who says that. Sounds to me like it's time for you to move to partial dose sumatriptan injections. With them, the extended visit from one Mr. Leonard would likely have been avoidable last night. You could have hit him with a second dose, and if your experience is (hopefully) like mine, an injection can last ya for 3 hours when 'ol Lenny is coming on like a locomotive for the night hits in high cycle, is laughing at the O2, and does NOT want to be denied his game of Scrabble. Feck Leonard.

Tyke - I'm enjoying your report and I like your slogan too. ;D 8-)

What CHS said - is there a link to the story?

Amen. We all need to stop referring to our condition using the term "headache" and stop doing it yesterday IMO, otherwise we're just asking to be treated accordingly.

Hey jimmys - I can't speak for Chris of course, but that 's never stopped me from butting in before , so.... In order to inject 3mg trex, the the partial dose method described in this "Extending Your Imitrex" link is widely used: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/imitrex.html

That is an interesting quote and a good find. In a national institute of health .gov article no less. Thanks Shocked (I've pasted an excerpt from it below): "..Interestingly, in May 2002, he took 1 g of ‘‘magic mushrooms’’ (containing psilocybin) which rendered him pain free for one month; since then he has been taking magic mushrooms 1 g once every one to two months, which renders him pain free for two to six weeks."

Hey Tyke, Hating that you're getting hit right now, but enjoying the engaging way in which you converse. ;D I'm thinking your verapamil dose sounds low for CH - maybe some headbangers well versed in verap will be along to comment on that. It is known to take awhile to kick in. :-/ If you acquire RC first, it can be a good strategy to continue to pursue the procurement of the McMushies, so you'll have them ready to go as your back up plan just in case, and won't be caught with knickers down. Ha, I said knickers because you're British. Sigh, well it's a bit of a dirty little secret, but this is a familiar pattern - I've talked to other CH'ers who like me have experienced the same phenomenon. Thank gawsh that busting can potentially render it a moot point.

That does sound like the hallmark of the way a peak cycle behaves for some of us. :-/ Dammit. I hope it's a really short peak. Sorry if we've gone over this ad nauseam before jimmys, but are you hyperventilating high flow non-rebreather O2? There are those of us who need to go higher than 25 LPM or use a demand valve system. This may also be super old and therefore annoying news to you, but in the spirit of leaving no stone unturned, some headbangers find that slamming the energy drink/shot right before the O2 can make the difference between abort or no abort.

Hmmm if I remember correctly Wellbutrin affects dopamine more than serotonin, so I guess I don't really don't know - it does seem worth looking into though, since there are headbangers who have had good busting results while remaining on their SSRI anti-depressant. Fingers crossed that the same luck could be found with Wellbutrin.....

This causes my eyes to bug out. Way out. That is the coolest thing ever, humbuckers and all. 8-) [smiley=thumbup.gif]

I wish I could tell you I've seen a definitive answer to that question, but unfortunately some feel strongly that 5 is a hard and fast rule, while others believe just as strongly that 4 or even 3 days can suffice. So this is one topic where I don't have any feeling that there's a real consensus among CBusting folk, and it could probably even be deemed controversial. :-/

Ugh, yeah been there in high cycle where the O2 aborts for wake up hits tend to hold for exactly one hour. Here's hoping that AT LEAST the severity remains somewhat tempered, and that it could even be an indicator that the entire cycle is beginning to wane and is on the way out.

Cool. 8-)

Best of luck iPain. You're way overdue for some luck of the good variety. And I know whatcha mean about finding the heat/cold to be more useful for the attacks that aren't at such an astronomic/nuclear level, although that's limited to my experience with attempts to abort an attack - I guess I haven't really pursued the heat/cold just with the hopes of lessening the severity of a hit that's not going to be aborted.

Whoa, Impressive! Seems like when you decide to do something, you just fully commit and go for it, no idling around. 8-) You sure have yourself a good tattoo artist there.[smiley=thumbup.gif]

Yay.

Yeah I'm afraid most if not ALL of us are familiar with that sad and tired old routine! I sure hope you can get to a good headache specialist sooner than later, Legion, as it's hard to imagine one of them trying to slap the hillbilly heroin on ya - certainly the experience wouldn't be as FUBAR as it is with your current doc. Glad the girlfriend didn't comply with your hammering instructions.Â

Thanks for the update MG, that's pretty darn tootin' interesting.

Oh. Well based on my personal experience, that can be a MAJOR game changer right there, since as episodics we do have the option that our chronic compadres don't have of riding out a cycle with meds, then following up with maintenance busting. I've ridden out a 2.5 month cycle before with O2 and meds (plenty of trex jabs at high cycle for the wake up hits) when RC didn't bust it for me, and have successfully busted with vit M ever since, so I can see this approach working for others too, especially when there are only 2 weeks or so expected to be left of a cycle. With hyper-vigilance, luck, and armed to the teeth, I was able to abort every single hit during that 2.5 months, at least well enough that I never had to endure a full blown, full length (3 hour long) version. So my take on it is that we don't have to adopt a religious sort of shunning of all meds when there's a temporary, critical situation they can very likely help us out of. [Caveat: keeping in mind that there's a slight risk of an episodic pattern treated with meds turning into a chronic one when we least expect it - a risk I took and was lucky enough to come out the other end fine.]

Understood about the need to have that trex injection handy. You might find some recent posts by Ricardo on the subject of trex injections in proximity to busting to be interesting, keeping in mind that there can be a wide variation in how we CH'ers respond to these things, and that Ricardo takes unusually high Vit M doses: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1369049582/11#11

Hey iPain, the following idea may seem ridiculous, and maybe it isn't really a realistic or advisable option for you, but just grasping at straws here I started thinking about how close you are there in South Florida to the Bomba Shack. I don't even know if the Bomba Shack still exists, but If you haven't heard about it, here's a link to a thread devoted to it: http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cb/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1297450426

I'm compiling a few of those here for the heckuvit. There's a photo circulating somewhere on this message board I think of the last graphic on the bottom tattooed quite largely onto a members calf (it was photographed at a CB conference).

Hey iPain, If you're considering trying other busting materials such as vit M, that does sound like a logical next step to me. Certainly there have been others (including myself) who've been able to get back in the busting saddle again after switching. Also, have you tried different vendors / fresh seeds for your latest RC busts? Some of us believe RC potency can possibly be an issue from batch to batch.

Hey Legion, so glad you're connecting with other CH'ers and their supporters now, because THAT'S when a headbanger tends to finally find valuable info about how to get some genuine relief. And I'm even gladder to see CHfather is your first responder, because in typical fashion he just laid out a fantastically thorough and succinct CH killing road map there for ya. I'll just add that CH'ers trying melatonin on for size are known to start with a 9 mg dose before bed, then increase in 3 mg increments all the way up to 18 or even 21 mg if necessary. About your oxycodone prescription: There are drugs commonly prescribed by headache specialists for CH and oxy absolutely isn't one of them. Yep, it's just wrong, dammit. Hey have ya seen the National Geographic episode about CH and busting ? (Busting is a more effective CH preventative then any prescription). Well here it is - the segment starts around 30:50 into this video and it features our debonair forum member Dan/Hipshot and his lovely wife LeeAnn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjteSZu_JqM

WT FACK??!! I didn't even know that was possible. > Really sorry to hear that your beast is right at the forefront of such innovations. Â