Bejeeber

Forgive me if we talked about this as part of your strategy last year and I've now forgotten, but some headbangers who drink the strong coffee when trying to abort an attack are also popping a taurine pill at the same time so they'll get that caffeine/taurine combo that's considered to be the thingamajig that makes energy drinks effective.

Now that you mention it, it would be tuff to find any WORSE place for head swappin'.Â

Insane indeed. Jeez Donnie, you must really be asking the big WTF???!!! To have the attacks intensify right at the time your valve/regulator goes on the blink, that's un-freaking-believable. > It definitely sounds to me like time to graduate to a higher LPM regulator or demand valve system anyway (if you're still on a 15 LPM), since your results at that relatively low flow are waning, but to have yours actually not working now is thoroughly un-thinkable. 15 LPM doesn't do jack for me and some of our other head banging compadres BTW. Hang in there somehow , very sorry to hear of this journey through hell, and best of luck getting to a higher O2 flow really quickly.

YAY!! [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] [smiley=thumbup.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] BOO!! > :'( :-? That's pretty incredible that a chronic could get over a year remission Green Eyes (!!!). Um not that that will do you any good tonight though dammit. Ya been maintenance busting? I imagine you're preparing to really go at it and seriously bust like a fuster clucker once again?

UGH, really sorry to hear that. :'( Understood where you're coming from there, as a whole bunch of us busting folk (I'm guessing most of us) kinda ran the gamut of conventional meds before getting down to the busting. Here's to some serious beast busting for you!

Wow, Darby, well I think you've you've come to the right place! If living deep in the forest means you're more inclined towards natural treatments, then this is a good era in which to be seeking info, because it's been shown that "busting" is the most effective long term CH preventative bar none, and a HUGE number of us who have tried every prescription drug out there, then tried busting, have found this to be true. I'm talking about powerful natural substances such as Rivea Corymbosa seeds (which are legal to purchase in most countries), psilocybin mushrooms, and psilocybin truffles (the truffles are legal in the Netherlands - and probably shippable to Sweden..?). For all I know you may have some psilocybin containing something or other growing right at your feet there (of course extreme caution and expertise would be required to identify it). This busting thing has actually gone mainstream to an inspiring degree, with some top researchers all over it. Don't take my word for it though! Here are links to prominent articles and videos on the subject of busting for CH, if you can load any of them: Newsweek (USA) article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/10/14/the-psychedelic-solution.html National Geographic episode (the CH feature starts at around 30:50): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjteSZu_JqM A talk on busting and CH by the founder of this site Bob Wold: http://vimeo.com/10918637 Chronic CH is of course the toughest to beat, but we've seen some chronics go into some really long remissions. And BTW busting can be extremely effective at knocking out migraines.

Thanks Ricardo - interesting about the Aztec connection, and the references to stuff like it's use as a topical "benumbing" agent. Benumbing. Benumbing. Also weird to see talk of a dose in the range of 13 seeds inducing hallucinations..??!! Were those seeds back in the good 'ol days more potent due to soil and/or climate conditions or other factors, or is the reporting just skewed and inaccurate? This I ponder.Â

I hesitate to continue to reply here Donnie, since I haven't been offering any actual useful info in this thread lately, but my impression from what I've read and seen reported is that unfortunately opiates can at least be partial busting blockers. :-?

Ack! That elicits a high decibel WTFeck??!! Dam. Sorry to hear about all that but glad you saved her life (!!). :o And sheesh at 10k a day those hospitals can be a helluva high rent di$trict.Â

Well OK my concerns were entirely unfounded about whether caffeine was being included with the taurine (color me a worry wart ), but I'll lay just one more on ya - from what I've read, taurine is very heat sensitive, often destroyed when cooking, and might be destroyed if added to real hot coffee.

Understood about the funds. Imitrex for instance can be insanely expensive for those in the US without good insurance (hopefully that ain't you!). Thank gosh the 'ol busting, besides being super effective, tends to be cheep cheep cheap, and the same can be true for O2 on a $$ per attack aborted basis. 8-)

Hey Donnie, hopefully you're keeping in mind that it's the taurine/caffeine combo that's widely considered to be the ticket, hence CHf's mention of stirring the taurine into coffee. And my expounding here by mentioning other options like pre-prepared iced coffee or strong ice tea or other cheap caffeine drinks. 8-) SUPER GLAD TO HEAR THINGS ARE IMPROVING BIG TIME!! [smiley=thumbup.gif]

I'd like to echo what CHf said and the exact way he said it. [Edit: oh and Ajax too - I now see he slipped his post in before mine] Good attitude. A bit naive perhaps, but nice'n positive at least. Now I'd suggest arming yourself to the teeth in preparation for fierce battle - just in case. Personally, I'd be stockpiling the imitrex injections, assembling a high flow, 100% O2 rig today, and considering leaving the verap on the shelf while charging full steam ahead with the busting, which tends to be more effective, with less dangerous side effects (if there's no history of schizophrenia, etc.) than the verap. If it seems like some of us are panicky reactionary paranoid alarmists - well in this case at least, we aren't. We're just highly aware of the extremely typical CH scenario, not just from our own experiences (30+ years for me), but from poring over thousands of reports from CH'ers. And we've had some great successes by way of very aggressive proactive beast fighting strategies and contingency planning. I know Ajax has become a master of the CH contingency planning, and like most of us has had to put it all to use in full force when hell has broken loose and the fit has hit the shan ;D, as it typically does.Â

YAYÂ Here's something a lot of us veteran headbangers and supporters have learned the hard way here: What works at first may lose some effectiveness So having a back up plan or 3 in place is the way to go. I'd encourage you to acquire that O2 for abort insurance ASAP.

Peace received. Thank you BB. [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

Hey Beast Buster! I'm not a chronic, just a stinking BUSY BODY episodic, and since I haven't seen any replies after this survey has been posted for a day now, of course I can't resist interjecting a couple case histories I can think of here. :-? Dan/Hipshot. Now there's one chronic feller who famously bought himself 6 months of pain free livin' with the Vit M. Sadly, he's been struggling again lately. If I remember correctly, there's a concern on his part that an opiate prescription for a serious neck issue may be currently interfering with busts. I also know another chronic feller who got some lonnnnng PF remission with vit M. Eventually it returned and put up a strong fight, he had to bust it hard, but got it re-snuffed while at the same time adopting the D3 regimen, and is now pretty much crediting the D3 with keeping him in remission. Oh yeah, and then there's a gal I know who went chronic, tried RC with no success, found herself to be a rare instance of someone for whom the D3 actually made her CH worse, then grew the vit M, busted with it (several doses), and voila! She's still in the extended PF zone. A couple of these folks may feel it necessary to avoid openly discussing the details of their busting on the interwebs, so hey, maybe it's not such an entirely bad thing that I'm blabbing my muzzle off here after all.Â

Hey Trace, I haven't researched it, all I can tell ya is I've seen some headbangers happily and encouragingly report good busting results while on an SSRI or Xanax.

Brilliant idea! ;D Too bad there couldn't be a worse place to shop for a high end replacement than this bargain basement forum. Tuff crowd. CHfather's noggin is clearly really good in the IQ dept. and cluster free, so he's one of the few premium cranium candidates around here - just do NOT let him try to pawn off his pancreas as part of the deal. He'd have to pay YOU to take that thing. BUYER BEWARE. Also, it should be disclosed up front that his head can't eat MSG.

Highly clever MG. 8-) I realize the questions in the lyrics weren't actually intended as questions to forum members, but hey, you know me. I'm obnoxious enough to pretend they are, so.... Maybe a partial answer to that question could be found in one of your other recent posts about your friend's concern? (bold print mine):

Those are interesting results '61mama, thanks. So it looks like a good 19% of headbangers are switch hitters.

Danged if that isn't the same best plan of action of a whole lot of headbangers here have! If only we could just hop on the phone and say "yeah gimme some of those Bromos, and toot sweet. Is there discounted shipping if I order in bulk?".Â

Me too. 8-)

I don't know if you can get 3 mg shots, but if they were to cost more than half of the price of the standard overdose 6 mg shot, I'm thinking you might be better off just using the "imitrex tip" method for injecting 3mg - or even 2 mg - doses from a 6 mg syringe. Heck I know a guy who routinely aborts attacks with 1.5 mg doses using this method.Â

HA! ;D That's perfect - you have a solid screenplay and music score in place now Moxie. The music seems to suggest a black and white film. 8-) Here's the embedded version of CHf's link:

Ooh that would make an excellent intro splash screen for your Moxie Way production company, for the film of you chopping and stabbing and beating the plum tarnation out of that head carving. And maybe the film could be debuted at the CH conference before going public on Youtube? ;D The big question remains - what sort of music should be used for the video? I think Spiny might vote for Rammstein. ;D