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Why yes, yes you do (IMO). Glad you're getting some delivered toot sweet - and heck those tranceplants seeds may still come in handy for subsequent maintenance bustings or something anyway.

Norm, that 50 to start sounds like a good dose to me, and I'm agreed with all the excellento advice TO and CHf have slapped upon you here. 8-)

That's cool Terry. 8-) [smiley=thumbup.gif]

HA! That is probably NOT a bad idea. ;D From my limited experience, there doesn't seem to be as much of that lovely combo of arrogance and ignorance in the vet profession as can be found in some of the people doctors...? Well at least your animals are in good hands. :-/ Full blown cycle??!! AUGHHH. can't blame ya for envelope pushage. :'( Dam I hope that O2 is kicking in. :o

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Oh NOOoooOO - that elevation change is one of your worst triggers!!! :o I know your upcoming down/up mountain trip must be for some absolutely essential thing like stitches removal - otherwise I can't imagine you taking that trip right now. Dammit. > :'( This sux. :'(

That part ROCKS!!  8-) Lordy that must be a nice breather for you MG. [smiley=thumbup.gif] I'm familiar with those sorta conversations where you're just trying to mind your own biz and someone close to ya decides to engage you with an entirely false statement about your CH. Those conversations suck.Â

What a rare opportunity to offer ideas to CHf! I'm jumping on this one! Apparently there is such a thing as a sunburn like ice pack burn, which is actually a bit of frostbite. Maximum 20 minutes is recommended for an ice pack. I found some discussion here: "..ice pack 'burns'...they look like sunburns and feel warm to the touch still...HOURS later...and they are a deep red, like a sunburn and painful.." http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080821195210AApVDyd

I'll just pipe in with a question about the O2: Do you know if it is currently working for him, and if not, has he tried very high flow 100% O2, with a specialized non-rebreather mask (or ideally a demand valve system)? If he hasn't tried this yet, I'm hoping it might help him get through a detox.....

Good point Purple, so I'm gong to back away from that idea until otherwise notified. :-[ :-?

Some headbangers have reported that taking a tranquilizer such as valium or xanax with it [Edit: see follow up post] - or having one handy just in case - can help with any scariness / anxiety, and it hasn't impacted the effectiveness of their busts. Actually I believe the discussion I've seen on that has been in regard to Vit M, so I guess I'm just ASSuming it would pertain to paper too.

Oh jeez he was young. I never met or had contact with him, but am indebted along with so many other CH'ers to him, and am shocked and saddened to hear of this tragic loss.

Oh, Doh! My attempt at comprehension of the busting timeline was all garbled and krap, sorry.

Hi Serg, Whoa, sorry to hear about that K10!! From what I've seen, it typically takes more than one busting dose to knock out a cycle, and I'm guessing that's what's going on with you. That was a seriously dirty trick for the beast to wallop you from out of nowhere like that when you'd had 2 days PF, since ordinarily we hope for signs like a gradual building of intensity to warn us that another bust is due. >

What Purple said. :'( And it's downright scary about the possibility of a surgical procedure like that (and/or the meds) inducing a CH cycle. Now putting in a request for last night's waker-uppers to just have been rogue hits.

I sure appreciate all your (and your son's!) efforts C'man 59. At first glance my only issue is that the term "headache" is used 19 times on the home page. Actually that's just a reflection of a bigger/deeper issue, beyond your personal control, that I have: I believe the term headache is just plain wrong and entirely misleading, and changing it would be one of the singly most effective ways to improve understanding of the condition. How do you get the name of a medical condition officially changed, such as when manic depression was renamed bipolar disorder, or mental retardation was renamed developmental disability? I don't know, and granted, all I've ever done is whine about the name cluster headache, but I do feel that when it comes to raising awareness out there in general public-ville, the name change should be step one. And I wouldn't be surprised if leaders in the medical field like Dr. Goadsby would be onboard with such a change. So, sorry, I may be the only hard-liner on this issue you encounter, and maybe I should just be swatted away like an annoying mosquito on your noble march to raise awareness, but I personally can't imagine myself flying any banners with the term headache emblazoned upon them.

So far, so AWESOME! ;D Fingers crossed this bust'll continue to provide some sustained PF, allowing you to officially become a member of Alleyoop's 4 Day Rebel Motorcycle Gang.Â

Dangerous and arrogant indeed. > That rant was absolutely called for. Glad you somehow made it out of there alive and back to the safety of your home! I bet you're glad to have that surgery over and done with. May it be the last you ever need.

Here are the absolute top 3 substances I would want: 1) BOL 2) BOL 3) BOL In the little bit of testing on CH'ers so far, one single dose of BOL has sent extreme chronic CH'ers with intractable cases that NOTHING was working for into immediate, complete remission, pointing to it being more effective than LSD. Not all that surprising, since this non hallucinogenic form of LSD can be administered in doses orders of magnitude higher than hallucinogenic LSD. I know I speak for a lot of - and I dare say the vast majority of CH'ers - when I say that given a choice between LSD and BOL, I'll strongly prefer BOL, the most powerful CH fighting substance known, thank you. F**k the LSD hallucinations and tripping. I do realize there can be major benefits from the psychedelic experience, including tremendous PTSD relief, but the extremes of illegal drug use and tripping shouldn't be required to knock out a CH cycle when a more effective alternative exists. Yep, it exists, now if only BOL was available!! :'( >

I wish there was an absolute consensus on this but from what I've seen there isn't exactly. I'd say most headbangers frequenting the forum here seem to be buying into the 5 day rule, and some feel adamant about it. Then there are some rebels who are in the habit of questioning authority who have tried shorter durations - like 4 or even 3 days - and have reported some success. The idea that it could vary from individual to individual has been a recurring theme.

Having someone extremely close to you die suddenly - that has to be about one of the worst shocks to a person's system possible, so if any stress could trigger a CH cycle I would think that would be it right there. I imagine the person you just lost would really want to you to take care of yourself in this scenario, wouldn't they? So if you aren't doing this already, please, if for no other reason than in their honor, get back to being vigilant now with the D3 and everything else needed to beat the beast back down. Lord knows you have a plenty tough time right now without this damn CH. Extremely sorry to hear this has happened iPain.

As common as this appears to be, not all CH'ers have such a correlation for cycles. When my first CH cycles hit, they'd start back up every year plus 1 month for several years, then every year plus 2 months, etc. with remissions gradually expanding longer and longer, so I've probably had a cycle start up every single month of the calendar year by now.

Sweet. I dig me some man in the box too. Plus Alice Kramden is a most voonderbar name. 8-) To the moon indeed.

Intranasal ketamine....I think this first started blinking on my radar when hearing about it at the last CB conference. I happened to be sitting next to Ajax - he's been prescribed it by headache specialist Boston Headache Doc - and apparently it has saved his arse on more than one occasion. You very well may have to just keep on pounding us over the head about it Ricardo until it finally sinks in and we all really start looking into it seriously. Hmmm....not sure now whether that "pounding over the head" expression I just used was appropriate or not.Â

Now THAT is very encouraging. You're basically a busting mofo now Brad. ;D [smiley=thumbup.gif] Insert YEEHAW <here>.Â