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What CHf said. 8-)

Hey Tig, good to hear from ya. A remission that lasts a couple years or more is fortunately pretty common for an episodic after 20 years or so with CH (as are the unfortunate extended bouts when in cycle, and the increased intensity). [Edit: DOH I just came back and realized I went all Deja Vu on y'all here, as I had made the same observaton in this very thread a week earlier]. Here's to some continued really extended remission time for you (we can always even hope for complete burnout, but I'm of the mind we should remain armed to the teeth with preventives / abortives for a quick response counter offensive in case a surprise attack comes our way). If it does come back at one point, now that you're hanging around here, I bet you'll pick up some powerful ways to deal with it. 8-)

Hi SOS, I sent a PM to you about imitrex pills, etc. before I saw there was this message board topic here, so what the heck, I'll go ahead and post the pills part here too for public consumption: - there's that trick that some CH'ers report where if you're expecting an attack at a certain time of night you take the ordinarily too slow acting imitrex pill one hour before, and it can prevent it from happening.....works especially well for those who are routinely hit about one hour after going to sleep. Also, I believe some have experimented with crushing pills or something to get them to work faster, maybe someone will chime in about that sorta thing.

Super interesting, this is.

Well that sounds like a common, familiar (but not guaranteed!) pattern for a long time CH'er, what with the remissions becoming longer, but when the beast does show up again, he decides to hang around longer and with increased ferocity. You sure sound like a prime candidate for busting. With any luck you won't have to find out though for another 5 or more years, with the remissions continuing to extend. Heck in 5 years the promised future will be here and we'll all be able to just hop in our hovercrafts or strap on our jet packs and pick up some vitamin M at the corner store. ;D If I go looking for side effects I hit WebMD, Mayo, etc., but I try not to look at them because they are a real downer , and I hope my prescription drug days can just be over anyways. I imagine you're well aware that prednisone is the mutha of all the horrible permanent side effect bad guys (if it has been taken at high doses for a duration longer than the standard short burst). I can attest to it's ability to mess with an immune system mightily, and others here can show you their hip replacement scars. :'(

Now that you mention it, I have some of that Russian potato booze laying about here, too, and wouldn't mind using it instead of rum. Does anyone know of a reason why the actual rum type of hard liquor might be important to use vs vodka?

Oh....looks like I need to go back and edit my post above to include you with Arizona and Hawaii! Hmmm if enough of us personally rebelled like that it could force a universal abolishment of the evil and insane "spring forward". 8-)

DST is basically the stupidest idea ever, even if it didn't unleash the beast on the CH'ers of the world. WHY are we still doing this daylight savings time utter BS??!! Arizona and Hawaii [and POTTER] have abolished it, so what are the rest of us waiting for? Can I get an amen?!

While CHf is strapping on his flak jacket, I think it's interesting to note how long this mamajuana goes back in native culture (several thousand years, like the use of RC, mushrooms, etc.,) without the alcohol component for much of it's history. I guess whether the original non-alcoholic version could still be effective for CH would be another of the bazillion and three things we're coming up with here to test out. I'll paste some background info below (copied from this site): http://www.natural-safe-hormones.com/mama_juana.html "This herbal combo has several thousand years of use in the native culture. The traditional use of this tonic combination takes several forms. About half use it as tea. About a quarter of the use is as tincture made with the local rum. (This is the form when the herbs are used as an aphrodisiac: the men commonly drink several shot glasses at a time.) The third way of using these herbs is to ferment them in water with sugar or honey. This "mabi" is sold from vendors carts like soda pop." Meanwhile I'll go out on a limb and predict not much flak will be received at ch.com. 8-)

Herbal combinations are definitely known to work synergistically, so I wouldn't be surprised if one single herb in there is NOT the "cure". I'm also not exactly holding my breath for an explanation via current medical science of exactly how or why mamajuana works, as last time I checked, the state of the science isn't yet quite up to understanding or explaining everything a single herb will do, let alone the needle in haystack scenario DrTy2 mentions regarding herbal combinations. Still, that would be an interesting experiment to split out each herb - several major universities should be launching extensive mamajuana studies right now. Still not holding breath. ;D

It's great to have you and your pharmacological expertise here DrTy2, and I too am very happy to hear how well the busting is working for you so far with this cycle.

Ooh, still AWESOME after all these weeks. I've got me eyes glued to this thread.

What alleyoop and CHf said - you know the home team here will always be rooting for ya Bonkers and Ron. If this works for Michael I'll be immediately buying stock in mamajuana , although I guess I'll have to get in line behind DD because I think the stock buying thing was originally his gag. ;D

That IS pretty much the ultimate LOL-worthy classic. Complete with perfect music and everything. ;D ;D - and I see there is even a petition to get the video of the LSD induced sports history event released for viewing: http://www.petitiononline.com/DockNoNo/petition.html

It's such a good thing to see a Cluster Headache - Natural Treatments group getting together in person like that there. How great would it be if these would start springing up in all kinds of different countries?! Considering the high level of participation of headbangers from the UK and the Netherlands on this message board, I'd say y'all are overdue there! (definitely a super high Canadian participation here - I think of the US and Canada as being kind of lumped into one continent, making it reasonably feasible for us both to attend the annual international ClusterBusters convention held in the US....?) Moxy, you can go ahead and organize the local UK meet and greet, I'm sure you wouldn't mind being volunteered for that now would you? ;D 8-)

Wow that's good to hear, it's one impressive and really well done spot for sure - granted it could be even perfecter if it's mention of O2 included the high flow thing, but I'm NOT complaining, this is a big 'ol win. What a payoff for all the efforts y'all are making out there. [smiley=thumbup.gif] Mucho gratitude to Kirt and everyone involved!

You Finnish headbangers are the coolest. 8-) Thanks for the photo! And who's that in the cowboy hat? I get this feeling it might be you.Â

What DD said.

OOH, I think you just won the new slogan for C-Busters contest (um, if there is one)! I've found that an extra busting session can knock out lingering shadows, but I haven't had them 24/7 before, and if he's already tried a follow up bust to try'n mop up the residual stuff, then I guess I've got nuthin', except for the energy drink thing, and I believe it is alley oop who has had some success in the past with ginger and shadows. Hmmm trying to remember if that was raw ginger...? I'm talking about this kind of ginger: Not this kind:

That was one well done news report. [smiley=thumbup.gif] And 1961mom, you are awesome. 8-) it's good to see how you are accosting and buttonholing the elected officials in higher office for us, making them look at CH stuff when you're in DC! It looks like he might not be "allowed" to get on the tram until he hears you out. All of you HOH participants and CH'ers appearing in videos are in fact awesome.Â

Yep, and along those lines, it's been mentioned here just recently that it can be possible to order psilocybin containing magic truffles from the Netherlands and have them sent to the US, the legal risks of which are unknown to me. I do know they're legal in the Netherlands. If I find out about specific truffle shops to order from, I'll post the info.

Hi Atlas, sorry the Kalembu version didn't work, thanks for reporting. Here's hoping your homemade version of mamajuana will pack a better punch. Anxiety encountered when busting with mushrooms is common and has been quelled by many a CH'er around here by taking a valium or xanax (without impacting the effectiveness of the bust). Some of us have also found that, counterintuitively, there's a threshold where a higher dose of mushrooms will be anxiety free. E.g., 1.5g is anxiety prone, 2g is anxiety free.

I find that statement to be 100% accurate. This is shocking from an actual headache specialist. Hate it when that deadly combo of arrogance and ignorance is encountered in a doctor who must've somehow just squeaked by with a C- in med school. >

I think of it as being the best known headache/migraine herb. I tried it and herbal combinations containing it long ago and got zero results. I haven't seen anyone report any benefit from it for CH. As far as herbal concoctions go, I'm much more interested right at the moment in the newly discussed mamajuana (which I know you're very aware of didgens). And for single herbs, I also believe there would be more chance of success for CH with kudzu or licorice root than with feverfew. I wouldn't be surprised if the tea you got may have some other health benefits though, as herb teas often do.

Oh, 7 herbs vs 14 - good catch there CHf! I could see maybe ordering both the liquid version and the Ebay raw herbs, trying out the liquid right away while waiting for the more tried, tested and reviewed raw herbs to ferment and stuff.